Re: [orca-list] OT: Anybody know what happened to speakup?

[Didier Spaier <didier slint fr>]

I don't see a point putting it in the RAM disk, maybe' I'm wrong.

In Slint a daemon manager starts it just before login.

I Ubuntu in:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/fenrir/fenrir_1.9.5-2.debian.tar.xz 

the file README.Debian says:

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To have fenrir start at boot:

  sudo systemctl enable fenrir

Pulseaudio users may want to run

  /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh

once as their user account and once as root.
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I'm neither use neither systemd nor Ubuntu but maybe that does something
similar? You'll have to check.

Cheers,
Didier

Le 11/06/2021 à 22:37, John G Heim a écrit :
> How soon can you get speech with fenrir? I am a little unclear on the 
> Linux boot sequence. Can you put fenrir in the int ram disk and does 
> that give you speech as early or nearly so as speakup?
>
>
>
> On 6/11/21 2:44 PM, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > Hi again John,
> >
> > Meanwhile you can install fenrir which is an userspace application.
> >
> > I just checked, Samuel has packaged it for hirsute.
> >
> > If you need help you can ping chrys or storm in the channel #a11y on 
> > irc.libera.chat
> >
> > Didier
> >
> > Le 11/06/2021 à 21:28, John G Heim a écrit :
> > > Do you have an address for the speakup email list?  Just today I sent 
> > > a subscribe request to speakup-request linux-speakup org and it bounced.
> > >
> > > I am pretty sure there are no speakup modules in the 5.11 kernel for 
> > > Ubuntu Hirsute. Saying, "modprobe speakup_ltlk" says the module is 
> > > not found. And "locate speakup_ltlk.ko" returns nothing. Grepping 
> > > /boot/config* for SPEAKUP yields nothing. All of these things work on 
> > > Debian bullseye with their 5.10 kernel.
> > >
> > > Well, anyway, thanks to your tip, it finally occured to me to compare 
> > > my Debian machine to my Ubuntu machine and now I know it's not a 
> > > speakup problem, it's Ubuntu.
> > >
> > > This is bad for me though. I manage a beowulf cluster for the Math 
> > > department at the University of Wisconsin. The researchers really 
> > > like having the latest Ubuntu. I suppose I can get by with ssh and 
> > > orca.  I don't know though, speakup and a hardware speech synth have 
> > > saved my bacon more than once during my career.
> > >
> > > On 6/11/21 1:57 PM, Didier Spaier via orca-list wrote:
> > > > Hello John,
> > > >
> > > > The speakup project is indeed alive and well, and thr speakup list 
> > > > was down but
> > > > is back on line.
> > > >
> > > > Indeed the speakup kernel driver are still there, but it depends on the
> > > > distribution to provide the drivers built-in or as modules or not at 
> > > > all.
> > > >
> > > > If Ubuntu 2.04/Hirsute doesn't have kernel modules this issue issue 
> > > > should be
> > > > brought to Ubuntu, but are you sure they are not built-in?
> > > >
> > > > Here (on Slint64-14.2) I type to check:
> > > > zgrep SPEAKUP /proc/config.gz
> > > >
> > > > And the output is:
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_ACNTSA=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_APOLLO=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_AUDPTR=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_BNS=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_DECTLK=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_DECEXT=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_LTLK=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_SOFT=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_SPKOUT=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_TXPRT=m
> > > > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_DUMMY=m
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Didier
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 11/06/2021 à 20:21, John G Heim via orca-list a écrit :
> > > > > Anybody know what happened to the speakup project? I installed 
> > > > > Ubuntu 21.04/Hirsute and it has no speakup kernel modules. I think 
> > > > > it got moved into the main kernel source code branch lately but 
> > > > > there should still be kernel modules, right? TI wanted to ask about 
> > > > > that on the speakup mailing list but the list seems to be gone.
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