Talking about Debian, which kind of iso would you recommend to install Debian 11 testing? I mean, is there an iso with at least brltty inclooded, and the Broadcom drivers as well? It’s for a friend. Best regards.Francisco/. From: Mewtamer via orca-list Just going to toss my two cents American into the ring... Regardless of Distro, I'm pretty sure running the absolutely latest Orca, commonly referred to as Orca Master is always going to require regularly pulling from the Git repository and going through the process to build it yourself as detailed in the tutorial recently posted by Milton. However, this is true of just about any opensource project. And yes, Debian Stable and Ubuntu LTS often contain outdated packages, both for Orca and for pretty much everything else. This is just part of their nature as releases that sacrifice being cutting edge in favor of stability and minimizing the risk that software upgrades will introduce major bugs. Regular Ubuntu, having only a 6-month release cycle compared with Ubuntu LTS's 2-year cycle and Debian's "when it's ready" cycle, typically doesn't have as big a problem with outdated packages, and Debian Testing, outside of perhaps the feature freeze stage of the current Debian Testing being prepped to become the new Debian Stable, usually has packages that are close to the latest release, and despite technically being a development version, Debian Testing is often touted as more stable than many distro's stable releases. That said, even if you decide to go with Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS, there is an intermediate option between sticking with a version that will be horribly outdated by the time of the next Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS and regularly pulling and building from Git. This would be to use Backports.In a nutshell, Backport versions of a given package are compiled from the software's latest stable release, but build against the libraries that ship with the target Distro. For example, Debian testing and Debian Backports might contain the same version of Orca, but while the Testing version is built against libaries in Testing, upgrading just Orca to it's Debian Testing Package might require upgrading all of its dependencies, possibly breaking packages from Debian Stable that depend on the older versions of those libaries... meanwhile, the Backports version of Orca would be built against Debian Stable's libraries, so upgrading Orca from Debian stable to Debian Backports might only require upgrading a few dependencies where Orca requires a new version or installing a few new ones the older Orca didn't need. I also think it worth noting that many of the updates to Orca are to address accessibility issues upgrades to other software introduced. In other words, if you're running a version of Firefox or Chromium that's just as old as the version of Orca you're using, you probably won't miss the changes made to Orca to address changes made in newer versions of Firefox and chromium. Admittedly, not all Orca development follows this pattern, but the Orca Mailing list does get a lot of "Program X used to work with Orca, I upgraded X, now I have a problem using X with Orca" which often leads to Orca getting a patch to work around some new quirk in x and/or a bug being filed against x. Anyways, I'm personally sourcing 99% of the software on my system from Debian Testing, and I'm pretty sure the only way I could run a newer Orca would be to go the Git route, which doesn't strike me as worth the effort on account of Firefox-ESR being the only reason I don't live entirely in text-mode... Though, admittedly, one reason I use Firefox-ESR instead of the regular Firefox release is that ESR doesn't change as fast, meaning I'm less likely to run into a Firefox issue that requiresa upgrade to Orca Master... the other main reason being that Debian only provides Firefox's regular release in Debian Unstable. _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html |