Re: [orca-list] VoiceOver vs. Orca - An ignorant question
- From: "John G. Heim" <jheim math wisc edu>
- To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>, Reece O'Bryan <reeceobryan icloud com>, orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] VoiceOver vs. Orca - An ignorant question
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:13:11 -0600
I agree with most of what you say, of course, but lawsuits are a factor.
I work for the University of Wisconsin. In the early 2000s, the IT staff
in the libraries had to replace Macs with Windows machines because, at
the time, there was no screen reader for the Mac. I don't know if
anybody actually filed a lawsuit against the University of Wisconsin but
that's why they replaced those Macs. Apple cannot drop support for
Voiceover, the same thing would happen today. One could argue that Apple
doesn't have to do such a good job of supporting Voiceover or they could
charge extra for it. But they can't drop it.
I work for the Math department at the University of Wisconsin. We have
Linux machines in our labs. But we couldn't do that if it wasn't for Orca.
On 12/22/21 05:33, Jude DaShiell wrote:
Very easy to answer and no law suits aren't even a factor.
Developer counts are the controling factor. Orca has one developer and
you can be sure VoiceOver has always had and continues to have more than
one developer available to work on the project.
On Wed, 22 Dec 2021, Reece O'Bryan via orca-list wrote:
I tried to think of the nicest way to ask this without offending anyone on this list, but I can?t think of a
way to ask my questions without either being unclear or slightly offensive, so here goes...
Why is it that VoiceOver seems to work so much better than orca? I ask from a position of pure ignorance? is
it as simple as Apple having $1 T and not wanting an ADA lawsuit while Orca is a free project done by amazing
volunteers? Is VoiceOver somehow integrated into Mac OS and Orca is working with further distance from the
Linux kernel?
My biggest problem with orca is that I somehow repeatedly make my system kill speech by doing very small
things. If this happened with Mac OS and voiceover, then I can simply tell Siri to turn voiceover off and
back on. With orca it seems as if when you kill speech, then you literally have killed it and it takes
dramatic steps such as a restore or reinstall to fix it. Wouldn?t it be easier to have a secondary,
potentially even optional, process running in the background that only checks to see that speech is working
with Orca and Wood restart Orca if it crashes?
Maybe this is incorrect thinking. Is the problem that orca is running at or like software on the operating
system instead of being a part of it like with macOS? Meaning an OS process should perform the check and fix
of speech.
Thank you,
-Reece O?Bryan
C: (502)-827-3724
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