Re: [orca-list] No Script, uBlock Origin, or uMatrix,



What exactly is double F6 doing? It does work, but I am trying to understand why to be able to use this command with other applications. I have to alt tab back to Firefox after install, does it always jump you out of the current window when doing this? What other applications is this command used for and is there a sign I can use to know when to use it? Example: is this usually used for alerts or pop ups?  

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On Apr 24, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Jeffery Mewtamer via orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:

It might be standard, but that doesn't change the fact the Firefox
Notification bar used to be accessible among the tabbable items above
the top of the page or below the bottom, that there was no indication
of how to get to it when they made the change, or the fact this change
is still tripping up people who don't know about F6 years after the
change was made... and as far as I know, this is the only time one
needs this trick with Firefox, and considering that Firefox is the
only thing stopping me from uninstalling Orca and what remains of my
stripped down Xserver, it sticks out as a very poorly thought out
change on the part of Firefox's UI devs... And hey, even if other
applications make better use of multiple panels, part of me says good
Keyboard UI design should dictate tabbing past the last item in a
panel should take you to the next panel or shift-tabbing past the
first item in a panel takes you to the previous panel, and if Firefox
really is standard and tabbing generally loops within the same panel,
I have to wonder how many blind users less comfortable with the
command-line either disregard certain graphical applications as
inaccessible or are ignorant of many of their features because they
don't know about the F6 to switch panels trick.
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