Re: [orca-list] Vim, is it usable for us?

[Al Sten-Clanton <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

Greetings!


From what you write, I infer that by "terminal window," you mean using 
the terminal with Orca and therefore via the graphical user interface, 
while by "TTYs" you mean the text consoles for which you do not use the 
GUI.  If that's correct, maybe my brief thoughts can help.


When I want to use the command line and therefore a terminal, I've 
almost always found it easier by way of the text consoles and the 
speakup screen reader.  I generally get more information about the 
output of a command.  I don't think this is a problem with Orca, but 
something about the GUI, since my experience comparing the old DOS text 
screens to the command line in Windows.  I do use the terminal from the 
GUI from time to time, but only to deal with GUI-related programs, such 
as checking my version of Orca or doing something with thunderbird profiles.


I hope this is useful.  Corrections in what I said are welcome.


Al



On 8/31/20 8:37 PM, Glenn K0LNY wrote:
> Hi,
> I've been using Linux since Ubuntu 8, mainly as a secondary operating system
> to Windows, so I really haven't learned it fully.
> But I've never used any of the TTYs, just opened terminal windows.
> My question is,
> What is the difference between opening terminal windows and the TTY windows?
> Thanks.
>
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mewtamer via orca-list" <orca-list gnome org>
> To: "Rastislav Kish" <rastislav kish gmail com>
> Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Vim, is it usable for us?
>
>
> Okay, most linux systems have a number of consoles, usually named
> tty1-tty12.
>
> The GUI usually runs on tty1 and switching to tty2, tty3, etc. will
> usually give you a text-based login prompt followed by the Linux
> console.
>
> On most GUIs, ctrl+alt+a function key will switch to the tty whose
> number corresponds to the function key used(e.g. ctrl+alt+f2 will
> switch you to tty2) and when in a console not running a GUI, alt+a
> function key will do the same.
>
> Some systems will have higher ttys(e.g. tty13-tty24), but I'm not sure
> how these are accessed when present.
>
> The general idea for using both graphical and text screen readers in
> combination is that You'd have the GUI running in tty1 and would use
> Orca with GUI applications in tty1. Meanwhile, the text screen reader
> would be running on tty2-tty12 and you would switch to those consoles
> for using command line and other text-mode applications with the text
> screen reader.
>
> If sound is properly configured, than you should be able to seemlessly
> switch back and forth between graphical and text modes by switching
> between ttys with the appropriate screen reader reading what you need
> it to read on the active tty. And even without the switching between
> graphical nd text modes, switching ttys is a powerful tool for
> multi-tasking at the command line.
>
> For example, if I'm writing something, I might have Firefox and Orca
> running on tty1 incase I need to look something up online, my work
> document open in an editor in tty2, tty3 in the same working directory
> as tty2 to use wc to keep track of word count on my work document
> without having to close or suspend the editor, I might use tty4 to
> pull up local files from elsewhere on my machine, and I might have
> some time consuming, automated process running in the background on
> tty5.
>
> Orca can work with terminal emulators, but I generally find switching
> to a tty that isn't running a GUI and using a text screen reader is
> often more straight forward for most text-only applications.
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