Re: [orca-list] Fwd: new on linux - need help how to start



Hi,
Not sure about the applications tray question, that might vary between types 
of Desktops, like Mate versus Gnome.
But F10 may do it for you.
If you do insert space bar, you will be in Orca settings, where you can set 
the caps lock as a modifier key.
And I agree, on the training, or lack there of.
I hope I am wrong, but there should be some training for Orca for new users 
and I don't think there is any.
I just had a list discussion with a lady who wants to use Linux and 
complained that all there is are the Man pages.
She argued that all the other screenreaders provide some training.
My only response was that in my opinion, the reason there is so little Orca 
and general Linux training, is that  most people who go to Linux aren't 
doing so as their first computer, that they are trying something new, where 
as most people who are using a computer for the first time, don't even know 
the term operating system, so the person at the store sets them up with a 
Windows computer.
I know that this is no excuse, but it was the only explanation I could 
imagine.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.G" <jozko gregorc guest arnes si>
To: "Milton" <milton duurzaamdigitaal org>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Fwd: new on linux - need help how to start


Hello,

thank youfor your reply. I wander, how to get applications tray, how
to run particulare app inside of GUI or should I type anything into
shell?
and again, is it possible to make "orca" key both main and numpad
insert and Capslock at the same time as it can be done on screen
readers, which were made for Windows on both keyboard layouts.
And is it possible to make some documentation, how can blind person
migrate from Windows to Linux(differences in screen reader's
terminology, different keystrokes etc)?

thanks.

best regards,
Jožef

2020-05-12 8:23 GMT+02.00, Milton via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>:
Hi Jožef,

I can only tell from my own experience for about 8 years I use Orca and
Ubuntu. The best in my opinion is not to compare but to start with a new
operating system and speech. For the latest Ubuntu you can download 20.04:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/

You can find the manual also with keyboard navigation:
https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html.en

Note: you can change into your own langauage by changing the last 2 
letters.

For Orca visit:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca

Success.
Milton

Op 11-05-2020 om 19:03 schreef J.G:

Hello,

I'm sending post again,due to it was sent from a wrong address and
might be block by mail system.

thanks for your help.

best regards,
Jožef

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "J.G" <jozko gregorc guest arnes si>
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 01:03:31 +0200
Subject: new on linux - need help how to start
To: Jeremy Lincicome <w0jrl1 gmail com>
Cc: Samuel Thibault <sthibault hypra fr>, Joanmarie Diggs
<jdiggs igalia com>, Orca <orca-list gnome org>

Hello,

before describtion of my problems, let introduce myself:
I'm Jožef and basicly a Windows user with NVDA as my primary screen
reader, where I contribute with slovenian translations. some years ago
I installed Ubuntu distro just because of my curiosity into VM (using
vmware player). it was version 17.10. then I have left it until now,
when due to corona I've got extra time to research other accessibility
services. And here is one of my problems:
I don't know how to update distro to the latest version. It says check
my internet connection, but as I see, it is ok.
another problem is more fundamental due to lack of documentation how
to migrate from NVDA to Orca. Orca has different commands for simular
tasks such as NVDA. so here is a feature request: improve
documentation and/or add another keyboard layout to Orca, which would
as same as possible with one in NVDA.
I also found, that you can have only one modifier active. is it
possible to make active all modifiers (both inserts and capslock at
the same time)? It would greatly improve one handed mode because user
cannot press ins+a with only one hand.
ok, why want to know linux a little bit?
I'm planning to setup a VPS due to my hosting provider does not offer
me, what I need. basicly, it is up to date infrastructure for hosting
website and on the same domain I want to host for my clients a NVDA
remote server.
before I would buy it, I wish to learn linux as much as possible.
Hope, that I started with the most accessible distro and as easy as
possible, cause I'm totally new on linux.
I know I would also learn bash, so I will also appretiate your
recommendation, which tutorial is ok for me. google offers many but
which is the best?

thanks for your replies.

regards,
Jožef
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