Re: [orca-list] Status bar presentation updated and includes braille support

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Orca is presumably now filtering out something it didn't used to. In 
order to know why so I can fix it, I would need a full debug.out because 
I don't use/have teamtalk.

Thanks!
--joanie

On 5/10/20 09:12, Arkadiusz Kozioł wrote:
> BUt now orca does not read  tx and rx informations from team talk status 
> bar, only that the client is connected. it's a regression in my opinion.
> W dniu 09.05.2020 o 17:33, Jérémy Prego via orca-list pisze:
> > thanks joanie !
> >
> > it's fixed !
> >
> > for info: I saw after sending my mail, that I also had the bug in caja,
> > but the fix worked for caja also. :)
> >
> > Jerem
> > Le 09/05/2020 à 17:13, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > Should now be fixed. Sorry about that! The problem was due to the fact
> > > that the pluma status bar now is inaccessible (no child objects) -- as
> > > the gedit one became a few years ago. Not handling that condition led
> > > to infinite recursion.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 5/9/20 11:04, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > Yikes. Lemme look and fix that. Thanks!
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On 5/9/20 10:25, Jérémy Prego via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just discovered that if you made the shortcut to the Status bar in
> > > > > pluma, orca crash
> > > > >
> > > > > jeremy@jerem-debian:~$ orca --replace
> > > > > ^[[D16:14:17.378406 - EVENT MANAGER: No focus
> > > > >
> > > > > Fatal Python error: Cannot recover from stack overflow.
> > > > > Python runtime state: initialized
> > > > >
> > > > > Thread 0x00007fb693870700 (most recent call first):
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 
> > > > > 260 in
> > > > > _readline
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 
> > > > > 277 in
> > > > > _recv_message
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 
> > > > > 230 in
> > > > > _communication
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 870 in run
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 932 in 
> > > > > _bootstrap_inner
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 890 in _bootstrap
> > > > >
> > > > > Current thread 0x00007fb6a59c8740 (most recent call first):
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 103 in 
> > > > > print_exception
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 163 in print_exc
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/debug.py", line 183 in
> > > > > printException
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 261 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 
> > > > > 254 in
> > > > > generate
> > > > >     File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py",
> > > > > line
> > > > > 359 in _generateStatusBar
> > > > >     ...
> > > > > Abandon
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know yet if it does with other software that pluma
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerem
> > > > > Le 09/05/2020 à 01:44, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > > > > Hey all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I made a number of changes today in Orca master regarding 
> > > > > > presentation
> > > > > > of the status bar. It was prompted by some VSCode support wanted in
> > > > > > Orca, but led to some bigger changes. Most notably:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * If you are a braille user, when you give the command to speak the
> > > > > >     status bar, braille will also be generated so you can examine the
> > > > > >     bar that way without having to flat review the last line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Roles are now presented (e.g. so you know if something is a button
> > > > > >     or link in the status bar).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Labels in braille now have the end-of-line marker, if you have this
> > > > > >     setting enabled. Feedback on this would be helpful. The rationale
> > > > > >     was the label soup I saw in braille for LibreOffice Writer. 
> > > > > > Speech
> > > > > >     separates these things out with pauses so you don't hear label
> > > > > >     soup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also found an inconsistency in what was spoken for a link (name is
> > > > > > preferred) versus braille (actual text, complete with non-printable
> > > > > > characters, was preferred). Now braille also prefers name. Let me 
> > > > > > know
> > > > > > if that change has any unanticipated side effects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > --joanie
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > orca-list mailing list
> > orca-list gnome org
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > GNOME Universal Access guide: 
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> _______________________________________________
> orca-list mailing list
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> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> GNOME Universal Access guide: 
> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html