Re: [orca-list] Status bar presentation updated and includes braille support

From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
To: Jérémy Prego <jeremy pregonetwork net>, orca <Orca-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Status bar presentation updated and includes braille support
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 11:04:42 -0400

Yikes. Lemme look and fix that. Thanks!
--joanie

On 5/9/20 10:25, Jérémy Prego via orca-list wrote:

hello,

I just discovered that if you made the shortcut to the Status bar in
pluma, orca crash

jeremy@jerem-debian:~$ orca --replace
^[[D16:14:17.378406 - EVENT MANAGER: No focus

Fatal Python error: Cannot recover from stack overflow.
Python runtime state: initialized

Thread 0x00007fb693870700 (most recent call first):
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 260 in
_readline
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 277 in
_recv_message
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 230 in
_communication
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 870 in run
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 932 in _bootstrap_inner
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 890 in _bootstrap

Current thread 0x00007fb6a59c8740 (most recent call first):
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 493 in __init__
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 103 in print_exception
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/traceback.py", line 163 in print_exc
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/debug.py", line 183 in
printException
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 261 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/generator.py", line 254 in
generate
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line
359 in _generateStatusBar
   ...
Abandon

I don't know yet if it does with other software that pluma

Jerem
Le 09/05/2020 à 01:44, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :

Hey all.

I made a number of changes today in Orca master regarding presentation
of the status bar. It was prompted by some VSCode support wanted in
Orca, but led to some bigger changes. Most notably:

* If you are a braille user, when you give the command to speak the
   status bar, braille will also be generated so you can examine the
   bar that way without having to flat review the last line.

* Roles are now presented (e.g. so you know if something is a button
   or link in the status bar).

* Labels in braille now have the end-of-line marker, if you have this
   setting enabled. Feedback on this would be helpful. The rationale
   was the label soup I saw in braille for LibreOffice Writer. Speech
   separates these things out with pauses so you don't hear label
   soup.

I also found an inconsistency in what was spoken for a link (name is
preferred) versus braille (actual text, complete with non-printable
characters, was preferred). Now braille also prefers name. Let me know
if that change has any unanticipated side effects.

Thanks!
--joanie
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