Re: [orca-list] Orca master and selecting web content in Firefox/Chrome

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Ok, I can confirm the super lagginess selecting text in Gmail with 
Chromium. I also see the problem with Orca 3.34. But I don't see the 
problem with Gmail in Firefox. Will see what's going on. Thanks for the 
report!

--joanie

On 3/12/20 09:07, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
> It doesn't appear to be a regression. Selecting text on other websites 
> in Chrome unstable works fine.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com 
> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
>
>     Ok, will take a look later today. In the meantime, does this lag appear
>     to be a regression (as I've made a bunch of changes related to
>     contenteditable content in the past month)?
>
>     Thanks!
>     --joanie
>
>     On 3/12/20 08:07, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
>      > Selecting the following lines out of your original reply caused some
>      > serious lag in Orca. The selected lines are the following:
>      > So I can partially reproduce this. I can reproduce the fact that Orca
>      > isn't saying that the Gmail link isn't selected. But visually it
>     doesn't
>      > appear to be selected.
>      >
>      > I had to wait up to 3 seconds for Orca to announce each selected
>     line.
>      > Using Ubuntu 20.04, Orca master, Google Chrome unstable.
>      >
>      >
>      > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:17 PM Joanmarie Diggs
>     <jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>
>      > <mailto:jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     So I can partially reproduce this. I can reproduce the fact
>     that Orca
>      >     isn't saying that the Gmail link isn't selected. But visually it
>      >     doesn't
>      >     appear to be selected.
>      >
>      >     The current situation is this: Because ATK/AT-SPI2 do not
>     appear to be
>      >     well suited for selections which span multiple objects, Orca
>     does not
>      >     control selection; instead it relies upon the browser's selection
>      >     functionality to work and reports what the browser reports is
>     selected.
>      >     When you're in text-heavy documents such as wikipedia
>     articles, this
>      >     tends to work well enough. But on pages which were never
>     meant to be
>      >     navigated via caret (e.g. google.com <http://google.com>
>     <http://google.com <http://google.com>>'s search
>      >     page), all bets tend to be
>      >     off. Sorry!
>      >
>      >     This is a big issue that we (me, you, Google Accessibility,
>     Mozilla
>      >     Accessibility) are all aware of. Hopefully we'll all
>     collaborate on a
>      >     solution in the near future.
>      >
>      >     Again, sorry I cannot just quickly fix this one for you!
>      >
>      >     On 3/10/20 14:59, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
>      >      > Hi,
>      >      >
>      >      > Orca has a problem announcing selected text in Firefox and
>     Chrome.
>      >      > Selection changes are announced for a time, then Orca stops
>      >     announcing
>      >      > the selection changes.
>      >      >
>      >      >  1. In Firefox or Chrome, go to www.google.com
>     <http://www.google.com>
>      >     <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>
>     <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
>     <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>>
>      >      >  2. Make sure screen layout mode is turned off.
>      >      >  3. Try selecting the about, store, and gmail links
>      >      >
>      >      > Actual results: Orca may announce the about link is
>     selected, but
>      >     stops
>      >      > announcing selection changes afterwords.
>      >      > Expected results: Orca announces the selection changes no
>     matter the
>      >      > content being selected.
>      >      >
>      >      > Orca master, Ubuntu 20.04, Chrome unstable, Firefox 74.0
>      >      >
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