Re: [orca-list] Orca master and selecting web content in Firefox/Chrome



Ok, I can confirm the super lagginess selecting text in Gmail with Chromium. I also see the problem with Orca 3.34. But I don't see the problem with Gmail in Firefox. Will see what's going on. Thanks for the report!

--joanie

On 3/12/20 09:07, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
It doesn't appear to be a regression. Selecting text on other websites in Chrome unstable works fine.


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:

    Ok, will take a look later today. In the meantime, does this lag appear
    to be a regression (as I've made a bunch of changes related to
    contenteditable content in the past month)?

    Thanks!
    --joanie

    On 3/12/20 08:07, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
     > Selecting the following lines out of your original reply caused some
     > serious lag in Orca. The selected lines are the following:
     > So I can partially reproduce this. I can reproduce the fact that Orca
     > isn't saying that the Gmail link isn't selected. But visually it
    doesn't
     > appear to be selected.
     >
     > I had to wait up to 3 seconds for Orca to announce each selected
    line.
     > Using Ubuntu 20.04, Orca master, Google Chrome unstable.
     >
     >
     > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:17 PM Joanmarie Diggs
    <jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>
     > <mailto:jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>> wrote:
     >
     >     So I can partially reproduce this. I can reproduce the fact
    that Orca
     >     isn't saying that the Gmail link isn't selected. But visually it
     >     doesn't
     >     appear to be selected.
     >
     >     The current situation is this: Because ATK/AT-SPI2 do not
    appear to be
     >     well suited for selections which span multiple objects, Orca
    does not
     >     control selection; instead it relies upon the browser's selection
     >     functionality to work and reports what the browser reports is
    selected.
     >     When you're in text-heavy documents such as wikipedia
    articles, this
     >     tends to work well enough. But on pages which were never
    meant to be
     >     navigated via caret (e.g. google.com <http://google.com>
    <http://google.com <http://google.com>>'s search
     >     page), all bets tend to be
     >     off. Sorry!
     >
     >     This is a big issue that we (me, you, Google Accessibility,
    Mozilla
     >     Accessibility) are all aware of. Hopefully we'll all
    collaborate on a
     >     solution in the near future.
     >
     >     Again, sorry I cannot just quickly fix this one for you!
     >
     >     On 3/10/20 14:59, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
     >      > Hi,
     >      >
     >      > Orca has a problem announcing selected text in Firefox and
    Chrome.
     >      > Selection changes are announced for a time, then Orca stops
     >     announcing
     >      > the selection changes.
     >      >
     >      >  1. In Firefox or Chrome, go to www.google.com
    <http://www.google.com>
     >     <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>
    <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
    <http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>>
     >      >  2. Make sure screen layout mode is turned off.
     >      >  3. Try selecting the about, store, and gmail links
     >      >
     >      > Actual results: Orca may announce the about link is
    selected, but
     >     stops
     >      > announcing selection changes afterwords.
     >      > Expected results: Orca announces the selection changes no
    matter the
     >      > content being selected.
     >      >
     >      > Orca master, Ubuntu 20.04, Chrome unstable, Firefox 74.0
     >      >
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