Re: [orca-list] Label versus name

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

I am happy to look into it. Do you have something concrete (one of your 
spinboxes) I can try?

This is probably something we want to fix in *not* a custom script. But 
I'd really like to see the real-world widget before making a 
determination or change in Orca.

Thanks!
--joanie

On 1/28/20 5:47 PM, Marc Sabatella wrote:
> Yes.  Also, if I override liocusOfFocusChanged, I can get it to read the 
> name explicitly, and then if I could ever figure out how to get the 
> value correctly I'd read that, but I don't really want to do that 
> manually.  I want to get it read normally but force it to use the 
> accessible name in preference to the label.  So I was hoping to maybe 
> just override some function that can tell spinboxes to prefer accessible 
> name.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:24 PM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com 
> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
>
>     Does the accessible name show up in Accerciser?
>
>     --joanie
>
>     On 1/28/20 4:16 PM, Marc Sabatella wrote:
>      > I'm not clear on what the expected semantics are between label
>     and name
>      > for an accessible control like a spinbox, but it appears Orca is
>      > *supposed* to read the label if present, the name if not.  But as
>     far as
>      > I can tell, for spinboxes at least, this isn't happening - if the
>     label
>      > is missing, nothing is read even if there is a name.  Is this a
>     bug, or
>      > am I misunderstanding something or doing something wrong?
>      >
>      > Also - really, I'd generally rather have the name read - the
>     label might
>      > require additional visual context to make sense (although I
>     recognize I
>      > can connect multiple labels).  It looks like maybe there is some
>      > facility override some internal function to control which takes
>      > precedence, but I can't quite work out how to make this happen.
>      >
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