Hey Peter.
I noticed that there were some things Orca wasn't reading in MuseScore,
and the reason why is that the objects had role of "filler". That's a
bogus role to apply to anything that a screen reader should present. I
don't know if that's a Qt bug or a MuseScore bug. But if that were
fixed, I think MuseScore would be more accessible in Linux.
--joanie
On 1/10/20 12:53, Peter Bartels via orca-list wrote:
> Thanks Joanie,
>
> not with Orca version 3.26.0. Today I upgraded OpenSuse to 15.1, but
> there isn't another disrtribution package of Orca available - it's a
> little bit annoying. As far I've read in May 2020 will be published the
> next distributution version with an actual version of Orca; so it seems
> I can't check it before :-(.
>
> Btw. (and FWIW) on FOSDEM 2020 there will be an presentation of
> accessibility features in MuseScore (FOSDEM 2020 - Accessibility in
> MuseScore
> <
https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/accessibility_in_musescore/>.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> FOSDEM 2020 - Accessibility in MuseScore
>
> <
https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/accessibility_in_musescore/>
>
>
> In this this context it would be great, if Orca would work in the same
> way as NVDA with the acual state of MuseScore (respectively the reason
> in case Orca can read menu items and so on but can't read musical
> elements - as mentioned I can't check it at time).
>
>
> Beyond that: thank you very much for all you replies so far, it's very
> appreiciated (and maybe someone is instered to get the application work
> with Orca)
>
> Peter
>
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020, 20:12:19 MEZ hat Joanmarie Diggs
> <
jdiggs igalia com> Folgendes geschrieben:
>
>
> Confirmed here too. But in my case, Orca is presenting things (e.g. the
> dialog box widgets) to me. Is it not even presenting those to you?
>
> There have been a lot of fixes in Orca and a lot of fixes in AT-SPI2
> along with some in ATK since the versions you have. I would start with
> upgrading to something current and then re-testing.
>
> --joanie
>
>
> On 1/9/20 13:31, Peter Bartels via orca-list wrote:
> > Just noticed an to be precise: MuseScore (="mscore") is listed after
> > starting the application (but Orca don't work with it), but isn't
> > listed, when MuseSore isn't opened.
> >
> > With best regards
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020, 18:36:33 MEZ hat Joanmarie Diggs
> > <
jdiggs igalia com <mailto:
jdiggs igalia com>> Folgendes geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > If you type "orca -l" in a terminal, does the application in question
> > show up in the list?
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 1/9/20 09:51, Peter Bartels via orca-list wrote:
> > > The Qt-application MuseScore is a scorewriter. One aim is to
> improve the
> > > accessibility, also that it works with screen readers.
> > > The actual version seems to run by using NVDA with Windows quite good
> > >
> >
> (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=Ocl9gBxmeKg&feature=emb_logo > <
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=Ocl9gBxmeKg&feature=emb_logo > >
> >
> <
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=Ocl9gBxmeKg&feature=emb_logo > <
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=Ocl9gBxmeKg&feature=emb_logo>>),
>
> >
> > > but I don't get it to run with Orca, not sure about the reason.
> > >
> > > My system: OpenSuse Lep 15.0, using XFCE, QT-version: 5.9.4 (so the
> > > command "export QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1" shouldn't be neccassary
> anymore and
> > > don't have any effect), orca version: 3.26.0, at-spi2 version: 2.26.3
> > >
> > > GTK-applications seems to work well for me. But what is neccassary to
> > > get work Orca with Qt-applications in general, but especially with
> > > MuseScore? It would be great if the software would also work with a
> > > screen reader and Linux (and at time it's not clear also for the
> > > developers about the reason:
https://musescore.org/en/node/299387 > <
https://musescore.org/en/node/299387 >
> > <
https://musescore.org/en/node/299387 > <
https://musescore.org/en/node/299387 >>), so
> > > to improve the accessibility features there.
> >
> > >
> > >
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> <mailto:
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orca-list gnome org>>
>
> > >
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > <
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >
> > <
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > <
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>>
> > > Orca wiki:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca > <
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >
> > <
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca > <
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
> > > Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ > <
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >
> > <
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ > <
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
> > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> >
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html > <
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html >
> > <
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html > <
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
