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Re: [orca-list] [EXTERNAL] Re: Orca and VS Code

Ugh. Need more coffee. Forgot to type "name". It looks to the accessible *name* of the window. Sorry for the noise. 

On 2/28/20 10:56, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

When Orca presents the title, it looks to the accessible of the window.
--joanie

On 2/27/20 22:30, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:

Hi.
That information appears to be in the title bar. The title bar is read when there is a window change or when we use the command "speaks the title bar". 

I just don't know what magic the orca uses to identify this badge.


On 2/27/20 6:15 PM, Isidor Nikolic wrote:


Hi,
Yeah the black circle means exactly that, it is a badge on a file that represents that a file is dirty. I wonder how orca determines this exactly.
Yes, the save action is always enabled – reason being users can always manually save the file even though it is not modified. Example usecase which I actually use: I have auto save turned on and my file is always automatically saved, but my formatters are configured such that they trigger on manual save of file via setting editor.formatOnSave. So when I manually save a file I actually format it… Nor sure if this makes sense but our users seem to be doing it 😊 

isidor

*From: *José Vilmar Estácio de Souza <vilmar informal com br>
*Date: *Thursday, 27 February 2020 at 22:02
*To: *Isidor Nikolic <Isidor Nikolic microsoft com>, Orca <orca-list gnome org> 
*Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: [orca-list] Orca and VS Code

Hi.
When I edit a file in VSCode and use the orca command "speaks the title bar", orca announces the name of the file with something like "" blak circle ".
I believe that the "black circle" means that the file has been modified since it is not announced if there are no changes to the file.
The curious thing is that even when there are no changes in the file, the save option in the file menu seems to be enabled. At least the orca does not report that the option is disabled. 

I don't know if it's an expected behavior, a vscode bug or an orca bug.

Thanks.

On 2/26/20 7:30 AM, Isidor Nikolic via orca-list wrote:

    Hi,

    Just wanted to introduce myself since I just joined this group.

    My name is Isidor Nikolic and I work on VS Code. I work on the
    Debugger, Explorer, UX and Accessibility.

    Thanks to the great feedback from users using Orca I was informed
    that VS Code can now be used with Orca. More details
    herehttps://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/90446
<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmicrosoft%2Fvscode%2Fissues%2F90446&data=02%7C01%7CIsidor.Nikolic%40microsoft.com%7C9a2fb740fa514f6c771c08d7bbc8688e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637184341755150702&sdata=aX3q%2BGyRVA%2F7I1yrMrfgubd%2FxAloPaUECZXaA4yf2tY%3D&reserved=0> 

    In short you need the following to have this working:

     1. Latest Orca out of master
     2. VS Code insiders started“editor.accessibilitySupport”: “on”in
        VS Code settings.

    From March the VS Code stable release should also be fine since we
    plan to ship with Electron 7. I also plan to update the VS Code
    accessibility
    Docshttps://code.visualstudio.com/docs/editor/accessibility
<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcode.visualstudio.com%2Fdocs%2Feditor%2Faccessibility&data=02%7C01%7CIsidor.Nikolic%40microsoft.com%7C9a2fb740fa514f6c771c08d7bbc8688e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637184341755160692&sdata=CdnC6gfmR5UIAO0Jg%2B3nB1nDTnpjCNR8ogMX3RXq2E4%3D&reserved=0>I 
    would include the steps to install Orca from master in our docs,
    so wanted to check if there is some doc online that I can link to
    for instructions?

    For any VS Code accessibility issues I ask you to simply create
    issues on GitHub and feel free to ping me @isidorn on
themhttps://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/new?template=bug_report.md <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmicrosoft%2Fvscode%2Fissues%2Fnew%3Ftemplate%3Dbug_report.md&data=02%7C01%7CIsidor.Nikolic%40microsoft.com%7C9a2fb740fa514f6c771c08d7bbc8688e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637184341755170686&sdata=B0hiGKHOQ%2F0dESJfl7lF0w3AjJEyhbwbVlFRfnHy59k%3D&reserved=0> 

    I apologize for potential double email, since I already tried to
    send this message but was not yet a member of the group.

    Wish you all a nice day

    isidor



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