Re: [orca-list] Questions



Hello,

Simplicity, minimalism, possibly performance and responsiveness is what blind people like about ratpoison.
The interaction is keyboard driven by default and is predictable.
While built-in features such as run box are not accessible key bindings are configurable so blind people can 
add their own scripts replacing or tweaking the existing functionality.
Back in the days, I was experimenting with ratpoison and orca on raspberry pi 2.

Greetings

Peter

17. 12. 2020 21:53:23 Reece O'Bryan <reece obryan icloud com>:
From my understanding, everything is restricted at first and you have to manually allow everything that you 
just said via dom0 on Qubes. Surprisingly, the developers are aware of this issue and I am communicating 
with them now about hopefully getting something working. I appreciate all of the information!
It seems as if MATE is my best choice for speed and accessibility. What benefits are there for the other 
distro‘s like rat poison for someone using Orca?

Thank you,

-Reece

On Dec 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk> wrote:

Hello,


By reading this: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Other_Desktop_Environments

It appears it is possible to manually install other desktop besides xfce (whonix default) and that for 
sure includes orca.

It is possible to install orca with xfce as well.


Looking at qbes os, it is transitioning from KDE less accessible to gnome moderately accessible: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usability-ux/#gnome-kde-and-xfce

The thing I am worried about is that qbes vm orchestration is so damn complicated that by default 
at-spi2-core dbus communication would be blocked as a potential security risk.

So in order to get that running you need a help from someone who do really knows that security model and 
can try to understand accessibility at the same time.

See the FAQ... https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/

Another tricky think at least fo me as I don't know qbes is that the audio may not be available 
straightforward: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/audio-virtualization/


When tallking about window managers it's great if window manager is accessibility aware but depending of 
your experience you might be able to run without such window manager.

Gnome's window manager metacity and mate's window manager marco have accessibility support built-in. It 
means they are emitting accessibility related events when switching applications (e.g. by pressing alt+tab 
key) and some other things I guess window menu that you can usualy reach by pressing alt+space.

Other than this window manager have no other accessibility related features I think.

There are blind people who are using window managers where there is no accessibility support built-in what 
so ever for example ratpoison or openbox.


Greetings


Peter


Dňa 17. 12. 2020 o 14:52 Reece O'Bryan via orca-list napísal(a):
Hello,

Have recently stumbled upon your project and I first would like to say thank you. I have a few questions 
if anyone could help me answer them:
Is orca compatible with all window managers? I would honestly just like to have the fastest one possible 
for obvious reasons of no light perception. Can I use it with any window manager for which of them would 
be the quickest?
Is orca compatible with any flavor of Windex based off off Debian? I would like to get orca running on 
WhoNix and eventually Qubes. Qubes isn’t even possible right now, but hopefully will be in the future. I 
would think you can run orca as I have had success with getting Kali to run it.

Thank you,

-Reece
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