Re: [orca-list] Vim, is it usable for us?
- From: Jason White <jason jasonjgw net>
- To: Rastislav Kish <rastislav kish gmail com>, orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Vim, is it usable for us?
- Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:56:33 -0400
Yes, Vim works well with a screen reader. You'll probably achieve better
results with Fenrir or Speakup than with Orca in Gnome-Terminal, though.
It also works well with a braille display, which is what I generally use.
It's easy to apply the editor commands once you've read the text to
decide what changes you want to make. I tend to use Emacs for serious
writing projects, but that just reflects my preference rather than any
limitation of Vim.
On 8/30/20 4:41 PM, Rastislav Kish via orca-list wrote:
Hi folks,
during my Linux adventures, I couldn't have missed possibly one of the
most legendary Linux tools, Vim.
Vim's philosophy of writing and editing text with a language was
completely new for me, so I have quite enjoyed learning about it.
However, after reading some introductory texts and few experiments, I
have two questions:
* how usable is Vim with Orca? I have noticed various rather strange
behaviors like reading currently missed word when navigating character
by character or reading a line in somewhat shuffled order when I
approach it from the next line. H, J, K and L keys doesn't seem to
work at all, I have to use arrow keys, I don't know, whether this is
function of Vim or Orca.
* Is Vim potentially useful for blind people? I can imagine, that when
a sighted person sees the whole layout of a page, he / she has an
imagination in his / her head what he / she wants to select, delete or
replace, and thus a way to express it wia a special language can be
very handy. However, blind people don't have this ability, we rather
know our current position and drag the selection from it, until we
find the ending point, as our view is limited to max. one line at once.
So, the question is, is the ability to define operations with a
language still that advantageous under these circumstances? On a
graphical system, would you use Vim over a traditional editor like
Pluma, or something similar with plugins, and if yes why?
Best regards
Rastislav
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