Re: [orca-list] Anyone figured out Discord under Orca?

[Rastislav Kish <rastislav kish gmail com>]

Hello,

ah, I had Skype set up with the flag attached to the app, so I 
completely forgot that it's necessary to add it. :)


Also, for the edit field, I just had a situation, where the input field 
was totally inresponsive and I was unable to send a reply. Turning style 
to no-style in View menu helped, and the accessibility of the field has 
even improved.

I'll see for how long. :D


As for the focus switching, that's interesting, I didn't register that 
here. Does it happen on specific places, or rather randomly?


Best regards


Rastislav


Dňa 15. 8. 2020 o 2:53 Nolan Darilek napísal(a):
> Thanks. Couple pointers:
>
>
> 1. The app is indeed "accessible," as it were. It is Electron, so be 
> sure you have the correct environment variables and flags. That said, 
> it's worse than Firefox because it's Chromium and old Electron, so 
> there's that.
>
>
> 2. Thanks for the Ctrl-A, type tip. I'll try that to clear message 
> field contents.
>
>
> 3. My focus mode issue isn't the switch. It's that Orca-a announces 
> nothing at all. I've never encountered this behavior anywhere else.
>
>
> 4. Agreed on the dialogs, but that definitely isn't an issue here. 
> Modals capturing key input is one of those gotchas I look for 
> regularly, and that isn't happening in this case.
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
> On 8/14/20 7:48 PM, Rastislav Kish via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > one my friend told me, that a lot of blind people moved from Skype to 
> > Discord recently, and as he did as well, I decided to make an account 
> > too to stay in contact with him and as a plus discover the place a 
> > bit, as there could be quite interesting communities.
> >
> >
> > I personally found their app completely inaccessible, I didn't even 
> > find that they're using Electron. :)
> >
> > The only thing I noticed was my computer fan preparing to start up a 
> > flight, so I have removed the thing as soon as I verified, that it's 
> > completely unusable.
> >
> > The web is another story. There are few annoying places, like the 
> > date picker on the registration site, it took me quite a lot of time 
> > to trick it just to realize, that I entered wrong numbers there (of 
> > course after submitting the form). XD
> >
> >
> > But other than that, it seems quite accessible to me. Although all I 
> > did yet was sending few direct messages and exploring the settings, 
> > so this may very well be a premature assumption.
> >
> >
> > As for the unability to type in edit field, this of course may not 
> > necessarily need to be your case, but I found out, that Orca has 
> > quite hard times when dealing with overlapping objects. The problem 
> > is, that it displays both areas without any indices, that they're 
> > overlapping. The only thing as a consequence is, that overlapped 
> > elements act strangely i.e. it's not possible to activate them or 
> > write to them.
> >
> > A typical case where this happened to me was, when I wanted to send 
> > my friend a friend request. The field was actually there, but it was 
> > overlapped by dialog encouraging me to create my first discord 
> > server. Which however was on the top of the site, whereas the field 
> > was near the bottom, so I didn't notice it at all, until I noticed 
> > that writing doesn't work and started searching why. I needed to 
> > close the dialog with according button, after that, the field worked 
> > again.
> >
> >
> > As for the prefixes and suffixes in chat field, yes, it happens to me 
> > too. It's best to press ctrl+A and start writing, that worked for me 
> > even if backspace didn't.
> >
> > The responsivity of the field varies with every launch, sometimes 
> > it's quite accessible and I can do even more complicated operations 
> > in it, sometimes navigation is completely without feedback as well as 
> > deletion, so I have to type the whole message at once. This is not a 
> > Discord specific issue, a very similar behavior can be seen in 
> > Facebook's web Messenger or Skype's web app. I don't know whose fault 
> > it is, as Messenger for example doesn't work correctly even on 
> > Windows when it comes to this edit field and Skype was also 
> > successful in doing strange things in recent releases, although the 
> > problems werre possibly lowered as Freedom scientific takes special 
> > care of the Skype app.
> >
> >
> > And as for switching between browsing and focus mode, well, it may be 
> > just me, but I feel like Orca does this all the time, on all pages. :)
> >
> > Like.. yes, it sometimes announces the change, but many times I end 
> > up surprised, why I can't move just to find out, that I'm in focus mode.
> >
> >
> > I don't like auto modes switching, it would be best, if it was 
> > possible to completely turn this off. But as for now, yes, it happens 
> > quite suddenly, sometimes without an information, not just on Discord.
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> > Rastislav
> >
> >
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