Re: [orca-list] Using Jitsi with Orca

[Roman Voronjanski <romanvoron93 gmail com>]

@joanie: Thanks for the hint, it works.

One unresolved problem still exists for me, though. When you toggle the 
me clickable using NVDA, a text field is announced where you can enter 
your name. For NVDA, it appears directly beneath the Toggle filmstrip 
button. Orca doesn't do that. Hopefully there's a workaround for this 
issue as well.

Hope the Jitsi interface will be more accessible in the future.

Roman

Am 08.04.2020 um 23:03 schrieb Nolan Darilek:
> FWIW, here's the Jitsi PR that fixes many of these:
>
>
> https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/pull/5432
>
>
> Hopefully that gets deployed soon. It's already merged. Can confirm 
> that buttons are correctly labeled, toggleable via keyboard, and 
> toggle status is correctly represented. One or two don't appear to 
> work, but that may be because they're disabled, and looking at how 
> toolbar buttons are modeled, I don't see disabled status represented 
> in Jitsi's div madness of a UI.
>
>
> Very curious to know how that could have worked well with NVDA at all.
> On 4/8/20 3:49 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hmmm... So the buttons are not buttons; they are sections with names. 
> > These things are also not focusable via the keyboard. And they 
> > regularly disappear off the screen.
> >
> > That said, I was able to toggle things by using Orca's list of 
> > clickables (Alt+Shift+A). Navigating by clickable (A) is less 
> > successful because setting the caret in one of them is causing a 
> > dialog to appear.
> >
> > While I can add this to my list of things to do, the place to fix 
> > these issues is in Jitsi itself.
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 4/8/20 16:19, Roman Voronjanski wrote:
> > > After you create a meeting, Orca doesn't announce the buttons, such 
> > > as mute, raise hand etc. I think you could still use it with 
> > > shortcuts and it wouldn't be a real disadvantage, because no 
> > > screenreader can determine whether the buttons are toggled or not, 
> > > but still, it would be nice if it was more accessible with Orca.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Roman
> > > > Am 08.04.2020 um 21:49 schrieb Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Roman.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have specific steps for me to try to see things that are not 
> > > > working with Orca but do work with NVDA?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > > On 4/8/20 14:31, Roman Voronjanski via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > > yesterday I tried using the Jitsi video conferencing web 
> > > > > application with Orca.
> > > > > https://meet.jit.si/
> > > > > I tried it with Orca 3.36, chromium 80.0.3987.162 and Firefox-esr 
> > > > > 68.6.0.
> > > > > When I tested with Chromium, I was aware of the following 
> > > > > instructions and warnings:
> > > > > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca/Chromium
> > > > > I really love this software and it works with NVDA 2019.3 on 
> > > > > Windows 10, not perfectly, but reasonably well. Do you have any 
> > > > > solutions, workarounds or plans to fix it in the future?
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Roman
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