Re: [orca-list] Google Chrome: Navigating Gmail is unreliable



Sounds good to me.


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:05 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:
Thanks Andy.

I will start with the table-boundary issue you mentioned which I can
reproduce. And then let's go from there regarding some of the other
things you mentioned.

--joanie

On 4/6/20 10:58, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After experimenting around with Chrome and Firefox, I discovered that it
> happens with both browsers. Chrome is worse though. In Firefox, go into
> a Gmail account. When you are in the Gmail interface, turn on focus
> mode. Pressing up/down in the message list works as expected. However,
> pressing right/left will navigate through the message columns such as
> from, subject, received. If you press right arrow beyond one of these
> columns, Orca jumps out of focus mode and takes you to the top of the
> page. Sometimes it is random places. I also noticed that Pressing
> right/left arrow beyond the point of an input control like a text field
> will eventually leave focus mode and continue in browse mode. Chrome
> does the same thing, but in the message list, Orca will not consistently
> read the email summary (the table column that reads the status, from,
> subject, and received in a single utterance) where in Firefox, the
> header summary is consistent. Make sure Firefox and Chrome custom
> settings have navigate with caret on, automatic focus mode in structural
> navigation off, and automatic focus mode with caret navigation is off.
>
> To reproduce, do the following:
> 1. Start Orca master.
> 2. Start Firefox.
> 3. Go into a Gmail account.
> 4. In the message list, turn on focus mode.
> 5. Navigate with up and down arrows.
> 6. Navigate with left/right arrows. Be sure to exceede the column count
> by pressing right/left arrow at the beginning/end of a row.
> 7. Repeat with Chrome unstable (83.0.4100.3).
>
> Actual results: Firefox is more stable than Chrome, but both show
> unreliable behavior with message list navigation by jumping out of the
> message list when trying to navigate beyond its boundaries.
> Expected results: Orca should respect the control boundaries, especially
> when manually enabling focus mode.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:29 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
>
>     Hey Andy.
>
>     So I think I am seeing what you are describing. To confirm: Does the
>     problem go away if you launch Chrome *without* --enable-caret-browsing?
>
>     Thanks again!
>     --joanie
>
>     On 4/6/20 10:05, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>      > Hey Andy.
>      >
>      > Thanks for the report. I'll take a look. In the meantime, some
>     general
>      > questions:
>      >
>      > 1. Does this also happen in Firefox, or just with Chrome?
>      > 2. If it only happens in Chrome, any idea if this is a regression? As
>      >     you are aware, a few were recently introduced.
>      > 3. Any ideas how I can reliably reproduce the problem? For instance,
>      >     does it always happen with one particular message?
>      >
>      > --joanie
>      >
>      > On 4/5/20 13:27, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
>      >> Hi,
>      >>
>      >> I am using Orca master, Ubuntu 20.04, and Google Chrome 83.0.4100.3.
>      >>
>      >> Navigating the Gmail interface is unreliable at best. Most of the
>      >> time, the results of navigating are inconsistent, so it is
>     difficult
>      >> making a bug report. However, I will do my best to give steps to
>      >> reproduce.
>      >>
>      >>  1. Start Orca master.
>      >>  2. Start Google Chrome 83.0.4100.3 (currently unstable dev).
>      >>  3. Go to www.gmail.com <http://www.gmail.com>
>     <http://www.gmail.com <http://www.gmail.com>> and sign in to an account.
>      >>  4. Press t to jump to the table of emails.
>      >>  5. Press ORCA+A for focus mode.
>      >>  6. Press all 4 arrow keys.
>      >>
>      >> Actual results: Sometimes Orca jumps out of focus mode, other
>     times it
>      >> only reads a cell such as sender, date, or subject. Other times it
>      >> does nothing. The main concern here is that it is unreliable to
>      >> navigate, making it difficult to send/receive email.
>      >>
>      >> Expected results: Orca should remain in focus mode when
>     navigating the
>      >> list of emails. Even if Google enabled the feature to read cell by
>      >> cell, Orca should not jump out of focus mode until I tell it to
>     leave
>      >> focus mode.
>      >>
>      >>
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