Re: [orca-list] Orca, FF and Youtube

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

It looks like Orca is not always respecting the live-regions-off 
setting. Will investigate. Stay tuned.

On 9/6/19 4:38 PM, Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote:
> Nope you and I are on about the same issue Joany, is there anything I 
> can do from Orca's side of things to stop it happening though. Well, 
> aside from using other methods of Youtube watching that is.
>
>      Nolan, I left the live regions at the default when installing 
> Ubuntu Mate, I don't recall what it is off the top of my head, and to 
> test this I spun up a VM and tried the different live region settings. 
>  From my brief few minutes of horribly unscientific testing.....the live 
> region setting doesn't seem (at least here) to do anything.
>
> On 06/09/2019 14:22, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hey Jace.
> >
> > I'm not seeing the sidebar spoken, but Orca is reading parts of the 
> > page to me. In my case it's because Orca believes they are live region 
> > messages. This leads me to a follow-up question. You said:
> >
> > > For comparison, I set NVDA up on a
> > > different computer the exact same way re: reading pages automatically.
> > > It does the same thing.
> >
> > Do you mean that NVDA is showing the same behavior as Orca? In other 
> > words, in both cases you are telling the screen reader to not speak 
> > this stuff and in both cases the screen reader (NVDA and Orca) are 
> > each speaking the unwanted stuff? If that's the case, then I guess 
> > it's probably a change in YouTube. If that's not the case and you mean 
> > something else, please clarify.
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 9/6/19 1:39 PM, Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote:
> > > Hey list, ran across this the other day and wanted to know if it's 
> > > just me.
> > >
> > > Running the latest orca-master, latest Firefox.
> > >
> > > If I go to Youtube and launch a video, it speaks the page even when I 
> > > have that option turned off. For comparison, I set NVDA up on a 
> > > different computer the exact same way re: reading pages 
> > > automatically. It does the same thing. Is it an Orca/atspi issue, or 
> > > did Youtube change something on their end?
> > >
> > > TO reproduce:
> > >
> > > 1. Open Firefox, and then Orca prefs. Turn off the present summary of 
> > > a page... and automatically start speaking... options.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. Go to youtube.com and load up any video
> > >
> > >
> > > 3. You should hear the contents of the page (in my case the sidebar) 
> > > being read out automatically
> > >
> > >
> > > Sienote: I've had issues with hitting control to silence Orca, 
> > > sometimes, and it *might* just be a Firefox issue, Youtube's page 
> > > starts speaking after I've pressed a key to silence it, for example 
> > > test video level three *press shift or control* test video 2 level 3. 
> > > I have to press control multiple times to silence Youtube.
> > >
> > > Anyone else run into this or is it just me?
> > >
> > > Jace
> > >
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