Re: [orca-list] Espeak Variants

[MaryAnn <mekare123 gmail com>]

Thanks a lot Didier, I highly appreciate your help and recommendations.

I got this Orca version from outside resources of Mint. Then, I'm going 
to try to update speech-dispatcher to see how it goes, though now you 
made me be curious about Slint. Let's see what happens first then. xD


El 10/10/19 a las 16:32, Didier Spaier escribió:
> I installed Linux Mint 19.2 in a virtual machine. In it:
> I have Orca 3.28.0 so I don't know how you got the version 3.34.0 (I 
> never used Mint until now).
> I have speech-dispatcher version 0.8.8 as you mentioned.
> I installed espeak-ng and got version 1.49.2, which is OK.
>
> With this configuration you can enable the variants editing as root or 
> using sudo the file:
> /etc/speech-dispatcher/espeak-ng.conf, setting in it:
> EspeakListVoiceVariants 1
>
> But this will feed the Person drop-down list or Orca Preferences with 
> thousands of values (yes, thousands: number of languages * number of 
> variants) making the UI not responsive during several minutes, so 
> practically unusable.
> This has been solved in recent versions, so get orca 3.34.0 and 
> speech-dispatcher 0.9.1 if you can in Mint.
> With the change I mentioned above in espeak-ng.conf you will then get 
> the behavior mentioned in my first answer.
>
> This being said, in my opinion you'd better use Debian (latest 
> release) to have an accessible system, or Slint that I maintain:
> http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/README.installation
> http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/doc/Accessibility/
>
> Best,
>
> Didier
>
> On 10/10/2019 19:18, MaryAnn via orca-list wrote:
> > Yes, the Michael's file is there.
> >
> > The Orca version is 3.34.0, and  speech-dispatcher is the 0.8.8. I 
> > was not able to find Espeak-ng's version.
> >
> >
> > El 10/10/19 a las 13:51, Didier Spaier escribió:
> > > Don't be sorry, anyway using either es (Spanish) or es-419 (Spanish 
> > > in Latin America) the Michael variant is available.
> > >
> > > All available klatt variants can be used with any language provided 
> > > by espeak-ng.
> > >
> > > You can check the packages versions that matter in this case with 
> > > following commands:
> > > espeak-ng --version
> > > speech-dispatcher -v
> > > orca --version
> > >
> > > I didn't find  these packages browsing http://packages.linuxmint.com/
> > >
> > > I will install Mint 19.2 in a virtual machine to check.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile you the variants are usually installed in:
> > > /usr/share/espeak-ng-data/voices/!v/
> > >
> > > So if Michael is installed you should have this file:
> > >
> > > /usr/share/espeak-ng-data/voices/!v/Michael
> > >
> > > To check, put the file in single quotes as it
> > > includes an exclamation mark that can fool your shell.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/10/2019 18:18, MaryAnn via orca-list wrote:
> > > > Oh, I',m sorry, I did forget to say that I was trying it on Spanish 
> > > > language. But anyways, I tried to switch to English to verify what 
> > > > you said, searched on every English and Spanish dialect, and did 
> > > > not find it, it's not shown.
> > > >
> > > > Actually haven't checked the version I'm using, but I am now on 
> > > > Linux Mint 19.2 Tina.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > El 10/10/19 a las 12:17, Didier Spaier escribió:
> > > > > I forgot to mention the sixth control labeled Capitalization style,
> > > > > but it doesn't come into play in this case.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/10/2019 17:06, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > > > > > Hello MaryAnn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a recent enough Orca (and speech-dispatcher), the Voices tab 
> > > > > > has 6
> > > > > > drop-down lists, respectively labeled from top to bottom:
> > > > > > Voice Type
> > > > > > Speech system
> > > > > > Speech synthesizer
> > > > > > Language
> > > > > > Person
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you select espeak-ng as Speech synthesizer and en-US as 
> > > > > > Language then
> > > > > > scrolling down enough in the Person list you will find:
> > > > > > English (America+Michael)
> > > > > > Here (Slint 64-14.2.1) it's the 17th from the top, as I ship all 
> > > > > > Klatt
> > > > > > variants (using espeak-ng 1.49.3-dev)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Didier
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/10/2019 15:58, MaryAnn via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looking at the variants list for Espeak or Espeak-NG in Orca, I 
> > > > > > > see that all of them are there, and I enabled them changing the 
> > > > > > > value to 1 on the configuration module indicated. However, the 
> > > > > > > specific voice "Michael" does not show on the list of voices to 
> > > > > > > select, though It's in the corresponding folder with the rest of 
> > > > > > > the voices.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas about why Michael is not available to use on Orca?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
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