Re: [orca-list] Espeak Variants



Thanks a lot Didier, I highly appreciate your help and recommendations.

I got this Orca version from outside resources of Mint. Then, I'm going to try to update speech-dispatcher to see how it goes, though now you made me be curious about Slint. Let's see what happens first then. xD


El 10/10/19 a las 16:32, Didier Spaier escribió:
I installed Linux Mint 19.2 in a virtual machine. In it:
I have Orca 3.28.0 so I don't know how you got the version 3.34.0 (I never used Mint until now).
I have speech-dispatcher version 0.8.8 as you mentioned.
I installed espeak-ng and got version 1.49.2, which is OK.

With this configuration you can enable the variants editing as root or using sudo the file:
/etc/speech-dispatcher/espeak-ng.conf, setting in it:
EspeakListVoiceVariants 1

But this will feed the Person drop-down list or Orca Preferences with thousands of values (yes, thousands: number of languages * number of variants) making the UI not responsive during several minutes, so practically unusable. This has been solved in recent versions, so get orca 3.34.0 and speech-dispatcher 0.9.1 if you can in Mint. With the change I mentioned above in espeak-ng.conf you will then get the behavior mentioned in my first answer.

This being said, in my opinion you'd better use Debian (latest release) to have an accessible system, or Slint that I maintain:
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/README.installation
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/doc/Accessibility/

Best,

Didier

On 10/10/2019 19:18, MaryAnn via orca-list wrote:
Yes, the Michael's file is there.

The Orca version is 3.34.0, and  speech-dispatcher is the 0.8.8. I was not able to find Espeak-ng's version.


El 10/10/19 a las 13:51, Didier Spaier escribió:
Don't be sorry, anyway using either es (Spanish) or es-419 (Spanish in Latin America) the Michael variant is available.

All available klatt variants can be used with any language provided by espeak-ng.

You can check the packages versions that matter in this case with following commands:
espeak-ng --version
speech-dispatcher -v
orca --version

I didn't find  these packages browsing http://packages.linuxmint.com/

I will install Mint 19.2 in a virtual machine to check.

Meanwhile you the variants are usually installed in:
/usr/share/espeak-ng-data/voices/!v/

So if Michael is installed you should have this file:

/usr/share/espeak-ng-data/voices/!v/Michael

To check, put the file in single quotes as it
includes an exclamation mark that can fool your shell.


On 10/10/2019 18:18, MaryAnn via orca-list wrote:
Oh, I',m sorry, I did forget to say that I was trying it on Spanish language. But anyways, I tried to switch to English to verify what you said, searched on every English and Spanish dialect, and did not find it, it's not shown.

Actually haven't checked the version I'm using, but I am now on Linux Mint 19.2 Tina.


El 10/10/19 a las 12:17, Didier Spaier escribió:
I forgot to mention the sixth control labeled Capitalization style,
but it doesn't come into play in this case.

On 10/10/2019 17:06, Didier Spaier wrote:
Hello MaryAnn,

In a recent enough Orca (and speech-dispatcher), the Voices tab has 6
drop-down lists, respectively labeled from top to bottom:
Voice Type
Speech system
Speech synthesizer
Language
Person

If you select espeak-ng as Speech synthesizer and en-US as Language then
scrolling down enough in the Person list you will find:
English (America+Michael)
Here (Slint 64-14.2.1) it's the 17th from the top, as I ship all Klatt
variants (using espeak-ng 1.49.3-dev)

Best regards,

Didier

On 10/10/2019 15:58, MaryAnn via orca-list wrote:
Hello there.

Looking at the variants list for Espeak or Espeak-NG in Orca, I see that all of them are there, and I enabled them changing the value to 1 on the configuration module indicated. However, the specific voice "Michael" does not show on the list of voices to select, though It's in the corresponding folder with the rest of the voices.

Any ideas about why Michael is not available to use on Orca?


Thanks.
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