Re: [orca-list] Orca not reading sender information in Gmail



To follow up on this: Given the nature of the problem, I've emailed
disability support at Google describing the situation and proposing they
add the header information to the accessible name of the list item. They
may or may not be willing to, but at least I'm starting a dialog so that
we can come up with a non-hacky, non-gmail-specific solution.

--joanie

On 2/20/19 5:24 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hi Nimer.

I can reproduce it, but I'm not sure where the bug is. What happens when
you press n is that gmail puts focus on a list item. That list item has
an accessible name which is super long and contains all the text in the
message. What it does not contain is the sender information. The sender
information is in a table that is a descendant of the list item, but not
an immediate child of it. I also don't see any accessible relation or
property connecting the list item with this table.

When something with an author-provided accessible name claims focus, the
expected behavior is for the screen reader to present that focus change
and the accessible name. That's what Orca is doing. I don't see a good
way to fix this without coming up with a custom hack specific to gmail.
I don't know if that's what the other ATs are doing, or if they have
something making it obvious that this table is something which should be
presented, or if they're ignoring the crazy-long name of the list item
and essentially doing a say all of the content.

Given that the entire rest of the message has been made the accessible
name of the item with focus, I think the way to fix this would be for
gmail to include the header information as part of the accessible name.
Then Orca would present it.

--joanie

On 2/20/19 4:44 PM, Nimer Jaber via orca-list wrote:
Hello,

I am wondering if anyone can reproduce this, and if there can be a fix
implemented, or if this is a Firefox bug?

1. Enable ORca, and navigate to gmail.com <http://gmail.com>. (Make sure
that keyboard shortcuts for Gmail are enabled in Gmail settings>>general.
2. Enable Focus Mode Sticky, and press j to jump to a conversation.
Press enter to open that conversation.
3. Press n to jump to the first message.
Expected: The screen reader would read the sender information, as well
as the message. This is the behavior that occurs in all other screen
reader combinations including Chromevox, Voiceover, NVDA in Firefox and
Chrome, and JAWS.
Actual: The sender information is not read. The message is read, but in
order to read the sender information, one must use browse mode.

Thanks.

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