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Re: [orca-list] chrome

I've gotten a bit further with this, so will contribute my findings to the list:
In addition to passing the --force-renderer-accessibility flag to all apps I run, I also have to set ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1 in my environment. I did this with a flatpak override so all Flatpak apps I install get that. Of course, passing the command line flag means I can't run any from the desktop menu, which is fine for now.
As of now, Spotify and Zoom are usable, though I've yet to join/run a Zoom meeting so I can't say whether it will work at that point. But I've logged in, navigated to various controls, etc. There are minor issues with some text fields that I imagine will get fixed in time, so I'm not reporting them and you shouldn't either.
Discord, Riot, Slack, Skype, and VSCode aren't yet functional. This could be for a number of reasons--in-progress accessibility work on Chromium, using an old Electron runtime, the fact that I think Microsoft uses its own customized Electron builds, the fact that Discord relaunches itself on each run and presumably doesn't include the accessibility renderer flag, etc. Note that very few of these issues touch Orca, and the ones that do are actively being addressed, so that some of these aren't working could entirely be due to any number of non-a11y-related issues.
Disclaimer: I'm not providing this information because I intend to answer support questions about how to use flatpak, how to set up user-specific overrides, how to run flatpak apps, etc. I'm not providing this information so folks can go out, fail to use these apps, and open bunches of Orca issues. I'm just saving folks the time of testing out various Electron apps they might be interested in using, or figuring out what is necessary to use Flatpak/Snap packages of same. I spent an hour of my life figuring this stuff out so you don't have to, so don't take it and make a nuisance of yourself. :P 


On 8/20/19 9:13 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Interesting, which version of Spotify worked for you? I was under the belief that Electron synced with stable versions of Chrome, so it's interesting that you're seeing *some* results under latest Electron, which is what I presume Spotify uses.
I just tried with Spotify from flatpak and nothing was accessible. Same with VSCode. I ran each with the --force-renderer-accessibility flag and got nothing. There may be an additional flatpak override I need. I'm also not sure if that's how you ran these, or even if Electron hijacks command line argument parsing to allow overriding Chrome flags.
Anyhow, I know it's early days yet so am not asking for support. I'm just surprised that *anything* works. :)
Thanks. Looking forward to the day when I, too, can develop bloated Electron apps. :) 


On 8/20/19 8:48 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

Spotify appears to be.
--joanie

On 8/20/19 5:18 AM, Arkadiusz Kozioł wrote:

spotify.

W dniu 20.08.2019 o 01:07, Joanmarie Diggs pisze:
Have a specific app in mind I can try in order to answer your question? 
--joanie

On 8/19/19 4:06 PM, Arkadiusz Kozioł wrote:
I asked that When chromium will be accessible, will another applications which uses chromium engine will be accessible or not? 

W dniu 16.08.2019 o 16:31, Joanmarie Diggs pisze:
Yes. But please note: There are crashes, there are cases where Orca doesn't know what page it's on, and there are a ton of other issues. We are still working on these. We are not ready for bug reports. I promise to let you know when we're ready for end-user testing. 

--joanie

On 8/16/19 9:29 AM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:

Hi, thanks for the information.

I believe that we need to use orca from master, ok?


On 8/16/19 9:32 AM, Rynhardt Kruger via orca-list wrote:


Hi,
Orca works with the latest snapshot of Chromium. It's still a work in progress, but already quite usable. In Arch there's a package called chromium-snapshot-bin in the AUR, I don't know how to install it for other distrobutions. Once you have the latest snapshot of Chromium, run it like so: 

chromium-snapshot-bin --force-renderer-accessability

Regards,

Rynhardt
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, 17:06 mattias jonsson via orca-list, <orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>> wrote: 

    Seems orca dont work with chrome?

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Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
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Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html 


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Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html 

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Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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