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Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question

Hi, Didier:

I just want to be clear. On every system I have had over the past years,
if espeakup is running, nothing else can output to the device espeakup
is using.

Note I mean espeakup, not e espeak or espeak-ng. I make this distinction
carefully.


I have never been successful with pulse audio supporting both espeakup
and speech-dispatcher on the same audio sink/card. I've tried several
times and eventually given up.

I'm sorry a second audio device is not possible for Willem. I really
don't know a solution for that, unless it's pa somehow.

Best,

Janina

Didier Spaier writes:

Hello,

Some information and corrections.

spd-say is part of speech-dispatcher, so if speech-dispatcher is not
installed, neither is spd-say, or if it is "standalone", it won't work.
This has nothing to do with espeakup grabbing alsa.

espeakup being a bridge between speakup, and espeak or espeak-ng,
has nothing to do with alsa anyway, at least directly.

If alsa is properly set, there is no reason that espeak or espeak-ng
grabs alsa. It doesn't here

Sorry, AFAIK there is no other available option currently than
speech-dispatcher for Orca (Joanie, please correct me if that's wrong).

I am not optimistic about the use of Peter's patch, as it is against
an old Ora version but again. Peter, is it right?

Last libao can use a lot of audio backends, but you can set the default
driver in /etc/libao.conf. Here I set: default_driver=alsa

But esd, pulse and oss are also available as they are installed when I
configure libao.

So, I think that in case speech-dispatcher relies on libao, the audio
card used depends on the backend of libao rather than libao itself.

Best,

Didier

On 26/04/2019 11:45, Willem van der Walt wrote:

Thanks both to Zahari and Janina.
Yes, I am running espeakup/speakup.
Yes, spd-say does not work, likely because espeakup grabs alsa.
Yes, I am using alsa, not pulseaudio.
I do not really want to run speechd_up, but I suppose that might be another option.
No, I do not have the luxury of a second sound device, so that one cannot work here.
I might look at Peter's patch.
Kind regards, Willem


On Fri, 26 Apr 2019, Janina Sajka wrote:


Hi, Willem:

You need to get speech-dispatcher working. In that effort spd-say is
your friend from the cli. If you can pass it a string and hear speech,
you should be good to go with Orca.
You don't say, but I presume you're also running Speakup on this same
machine? If so, espeakup could be blocking speech-dispatcher. At least,
that's how things work on my machines and it's the reason I use a second
audio card for speech-dispatcher. If using alsa in such a configuration
you'll want to identify the appropriate device in
/etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf. Here's the relevant line from my
file:

#AudioALSADevice "plughw:1"

Note this line is commented because I'm using libao, not alsa, which is
slected higher up in that file. libao simply chooses the first available
audio card when launched. In my case that turns out to be hw:1.

People using pulseaudio will have a different approach. I can't speak to
that, it's never worked for me.

hth

Janina

Willem van der Walt writes:

Good day,
I have revived my x-windows system, but still need to get orca running.
Actually, it seem to be running, but it is not talking as my
speech-dispatcher is not working.
I kind of remember that one had a choice to either directly use espeak or
use it through speech-dispatcher.
OK, so I am trying to run orca from a console, to set it up to use espeak
directly, but it wants to connect to the x server.
How can I make this change from the command line?
I am happy to edit configuration files if I know which one and where to look
for it.
I am running ubuntu 18.04, reached through an upgrade.
The orca version is 3.28.0
TIA, Willem


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Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
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Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org


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Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures        http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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