Re: [orca-list] Regression: Orca says "no focus" on Thunderbird when opening a mail

[Alex ARNAUD <alexarnaud hypra fr>]

Thanks for the explanation. You can miss my last mail. I've not seen 
this one before my last answer.

Best regards,
Alex.

Le 13/09/2018 à 13:39, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> I'll look into it. But if you are in an inaccessible application, Orca
> doesn't get keyboard commands. Whether or not Orca says "no focus" has
> nothing to do with that, and thus alt+tab will still be needed.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 09/13/2018 04:07 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > Hello Joanie,
> >
> > Do you plan to fix this or revert this for 3.30?
> >
> > Another user impact is when Orca thinks you're in on a inaccessible
> > application it seems no Orca command works. In my situation it's the
> > command to turned off Orca. I often have to do alt+tab to be able to
> > close Orca.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex.
> >
> > Le 07/09/2018 à 13:11, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > Saying "no focus" was added so that when you wind up in a place that is
> > > not accessible, Orca says something rather than nothing. There's a delay
> > > built in to wait in case something is about to claim focus, perhaps it
> > > needs to be longer.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 09/07/2018 06:25 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > Environment:
> > > > - Debian Stretch with an upgraded a11y stack
> > > > - Orca master
> > > > - Thunderbird 52.9.1, mail are opened in a separate window in my
> > > > Thunderbird configuration
> > > >
> > > > This issue is not easy to reproduce, what I've seen is when you're
> > > > opening a mail sometime Orca says "no focus". I don't understand why
> > > > Orca says that right now, in 3.28 this issue doesn't happen.
> > > >
> > > > Steps I've done with a mail I've encounter the issue:
> > > > 1) Open the mail, move the caret at the top of the mail
> > > > 2) Directly close the mail with ctrl+w
> > > > 3) Open the mail with the return key
> > > >
> > > > I've generated a debug out:
> > > > https://framabin.org/p/?4398c7b95cf25769#ClvXDHLQxjn24Q2cGVsATptkBdcc5D71jTmmg6IlNbQ=
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards.
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