Re: [orca-list] Regression: Orca says "no focus" on Thunderbird when opening a mail

[Jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366 gmail com>]

Just gonna second the alt+tab thing, not got a successful dbug log yet 
and it doesn't happen all the time. F.ex. I have Pluma (which I know for 
a fact is acessible) open, Waterfox (ditt) and a Pidgin IM window (also 
ditto) open and alt tab between them, Orca reports no focus on all three 
at random points.

Is it the task switching window itself that is causing the message or 
jumping to the newly focused program that's causing it? I've also had it 
when opening the Brisk menu immediately followed by Orca picking up the 
opened menu with 'frame'

I just tested it now and it said no focus opening up the Brisk menu and 
when I closed said menu, it went to go back to the write window and also 
said no focus. Interestingly Orca acted as if the Write window was 
completely invisible until I hit a key to move the cursor.

Okay Joany do you mind if I put the debug.out in an email to ya? I 
captured both the brisk menu issue and the alt tab one.


On 07/09/18 14:25, Jérémy Prego via orca-list wrote:
> hello,
>
> here I am concerned when I navigate with alt + tab in any open applications.
>
> use orca master
> debian testing
> Jerem
> Le 07/09/2018 à 13:22, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
> > Thanks Joanmarie for the explanation. Indeed, it's an really good idea
> > to add this sort of message. Maybe another message should be send to
> > the user. Personally I don't understand it. I propose: "The
> > application seems to be not accessible".
> >
> > I've a fast computer so I assume I shouldn't be the only one to
> > encounter such issue. Let me know if I could test a fix.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex.
> >
> > Le 07/09/2018 à 13:11, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > Saying "no focus" was added so that when you wind up in a place that is
> > > not accessible, Orca says something rather than nothing. There's a delay
> > > built in to wait in case something is about to claim focus, perhaps it
> > > needs to be longer.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 09/07/2018 06:25 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > Environment:
> > > > - Debian Stretch with an upgraded a11y stack
> > > > - Orca master
> > > > - Thunderbird 52.9.1, mail are opened in a separate window in my
> > > > Thunderbird configuration
> > > >
> > > > This issue is not easy to reproduce, what I've seen is when you're
> > > > opening a mail sometime Orca says "no focus". I don't understand why
> > > > Orca says that right now, in 3.28 this issue doesn't happen.
> > > >
> > > > Steps I've done with a mail I've encounter the issue:
> > > > 1) Open the mail, move the caret at the top of the mail
> > > > 2) Directly close the mail with ctrl+w
> > > > 3) Open the mail with the return key
> > > >
> > > > I've generated a debug out:
> > > > https://framabin.org/p/?4398c7b95cf25769#ClvXDHLQxjn24Q2cGVsATptkBdcc5D71jTmmg6IlNbQ=
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards.
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