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Re: [orca-list] Sluggishness in Orca

Hello,

I can still definitely reproduce the lag in the voice type settings
panel. I just installed Orca master after making sure it was
completely up to date and it's still happening.

Thanks,

B

On 10/29/18, Andy Borka via orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:

Maybe this is related to the type of GPU on the laptops? I don't have  any
noticeable lag that I am aware. Here is my GPU for further reference. lspci
| grep VGA 00:02.0  [01;31m [KVGA [K compatible controller: Intel
Corporation  UHD Graphics 620 (rev 07) 00:13.0 Non- [01;31m [KVGA [K
unclassified device: Intel Corporation  Sunrise Point-LP Integrated Sensor
Hub (rev 21)] On 10/28/18 10:57 PM, Kyle via orca-list wrote: > Andy Borka
via orca-list aliandika: >> # Best recommendation is to get a better
computer at some point.  > That dependds on how you define better. First of
all, I personally  > define a better computer as one that doesn't break the
bank, either at  > purchase time or during a month of daily usage. I
currently have 4 to  > 5 computers running at any one time, and they
altogether use about 20%  > of the power used by the monster beasty I had
that finally died  > earlier this year, and any one of them is capable of
being powered by  > a standard USB cell phone battery for anywhere from 6 to
16 hours or  > more. I consider any one of these to be a better computer.
Now for the  > most relevant point. A screen reader should run smoothly on
any  > computer that is capable of running a supported desktop. The  >
work-around for a bug or other performance issue that is causing a  > screen
reader to lag is not to "get a better computer." I understand  > that
computers with less RAM can't be tested by some people because  > they don't
have such machines with which to test, but "get a better  > computer," read
more expensive for better, is just not a good  > work-around for a
performance bug that can be traced to the screen  > reader. These are in
fact valid bugs, and shouldn't be dismissed out  > of hand because of the
hardware on which they were found. > And now to try to reproduce and/or
confirm the bugs. Full disclosure,  > I'm running ArchLinuxARM with Orca
pulled 2 days ago from git on an  > ODroid C2. This machine has 2GB of RAM,
a quad-core A53 64-bit  > processor running at 1.5GHz, and a 128GB SSD with
a connected 3TB USB  > spinning hard disk. The OS runs from the SSD,and
includes MATE 1.20.3. > Brandon Tyson via orca-list aliandika: > # 1. As of
Orca 3.29, and continuing into at least Orca 3.30.0, when you > # tab into
the voice type settings panel in Orca's preferences dialog on > # the voice
tab, there is a very noticeable lag that was not present > # before, and
Orca does not announce anything else until it recovers > # from the lag. >
Could this possibly be fixed? I do notice a slight lag, less than a  >
second, as soon as the preferences window opens, but the voice tab is  >
running smoothly here. So this one is either not affecting me, or has  >
been fixed. I can't tell for sure either way. > # 2. Orca really seems to
lag when reading through websites in Firefox. > # When I up and down arrow,
and there's a lot of links, images, entries, > # anything other than just
simple text for the most part, it takes Orca > # some time to read, and this
is especially a lot more noticeable on > # lower end systems. > Confirmed.
However, I have usually attributed this slowness to Firefox  > more than to
Orca, as much of the same lag is present on many of the  > same websites in
Seamonkey and Firefox, but Chromium doesn't lag on  > most of these same
websites. It's definitely worth looking into, but  > may be a Mozilla bug
rather than an Orca bug. Unfortunately there  > really isn't any other
screen reader that I can use to help me  > determine where the problem may
be. The best site to use for testing  > that doesn't require any login
information is > https://figgers.com/ > which is practically unusable in
both Firefox and Seamonkey with Orca,  > but seems to work quite well in
Chromium. > # 3. For me, in general, to get Orca to run well I have to have
a super > # high end system. Another system a friend of mine has is using
Orca > # 3.28.0, and Ubuntu Mate 18.04 with 1 gb of RAM and Orca is
extremely > # sluggish. When they change Orca settings and press the "OK"
button, > # Orca says "screen reader settings reloaded", but then takes a
good 5 > # to 7 seconds before it announces the Desktop. > Confirmed. This
sluggishness isn't limited to changing settings and  > reloading using the
OK button however. I find that it can take  > anywhere from 0 up to 5 to 6
seconds to announce either the desktop or  > the currently focused window if
I toggle Orca off and then back on.  > Unfortunately, this one is not 100%
reproduceable. It's rather hit or  > miss here, happening maybe 60 to 70% of
the time, and as I said, it's  > quite variable in nature. > # 4. When
navigating in general, if you don't have a super high end > # system, Orca
seems to lag, for example, even when going through the > # alt f1 menus in
Ubuntu Mate. > Confirmed, although the lag isn't very long here, only about
0.2 to  > maybe 0.3 seconds at most as I navigate through the menu. Looks
like  > some of this could be related to accessible event floods, but I'm
not  > sure. Most of the time, I don't notice this when navigating, but yes,
 > I do see it in the MATE menu system, probably more in the main  >
applications menu than any other menu or in the applications submenus.  >
Again, in the places where I see it, it's really not extremely  > sluggish,
just a bit noticeable. So I will say it's confirmed here. It  > does also
appear to corolate with CPU speed or the number of threads  > available, as
I don't notice the sluggishness in the menu so much on  > my XU4, which has
4 32-bit A15 cores running at 2GHz and 4 32-bit A7  > cores running at
1.4GHz, and also has 2GB of RAM. I hope this  > information can help track
down some of these sluggish areas at least  > a little. > Imetumwa kutoka
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