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Re: [orca-list] Linux security [was "Re: Ubuntu 18.04 used for general business"]

Mac's aren't free of viruses or malware either though when security professionals have a choice according to one survey I read a while ago they go for the macs to do their security work. Use of known clean live systems that is, a system on a dvd you run is far safer than putting anything on a hard drive and Linux offers this as a possible operating option. I've heard of no such possibilities from the competition. 

On Tue, 8 May 2018, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 06:41:35
From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>
To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>, Krishnakant Mane <kkmane riseup net>,
    kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>,
    "orca-list gnome org" <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: Linux security [was
    "Re: [orca-list] Ubuntu 18.04 used for general business"]
We've had two alerts for Linux malware where I work in the past year or two. one was for Shellshock, and I don't remember the name of the other malware. We passed them on to one of our vendors who uses Linux servers to provide their services to us and asked for documentation that they had installed the necessary patches to close off these vulnerabilities. A quick web search will show multiple studies and articles that with the rise of Linux servers in the cloud and IOT devices Linux is being targeted more and more by black hatters. Linux is more secure then other options but to say that it's virus free or immune to malware is more then a bit misleading. 


On 05/08/2018 04:51 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 Protection goes a little farther than that, directories or folders have
 their own sets of permissions and if memory serves devices which are above
 directories in the hierarchy can have their own permissions as well.

 On Tue, 8 May 2018, Krishnakant Mane wrote:


 Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 01:37:03
 From: Krishnakant Mane <kkmane riseup net>
 To: kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>,
 ??? "orca-list gnome org" <orca-list gnome org>
 Subject: Re: [orca-list] Ubuntu 18.04 used for general business


 On the security side I might just add that Linux follows some standards
 which make it practically next to impossible for making virus.

 The thing is that there are sets of permissions for every file aka read,
 write and execute.

 although downloading software that you don't trust may damage either your
 user account or entire OS, there is no such Windows style virus where the
 thing can automatically "infect " your machine and self execute without
 you even knowing it.

 As Kendle properly pointed out, if you know what you are doing, then you
 are very secured.

 This is unlike Windows, where no matter how much you know, there is still
 great possibility of some thing automatically infecting your OS, even
 when you just insert pen drive or that sort.

 Happy hacking.

 Krishnakant.


 On Tuesday 08 May 2018 10:18 AM, kendell clark wrote:


 ?Hi

 ?I?ll second this, adding that I personally prefer the mate desktop, but
 ?either mate or gnome work equally well, and gnome has some online
 ?integration with services like google drive and iCloud that mate
 currently
 ?doesn?t have. The only thing that Linux does not do very well, and this
 is
 ?my own personal opinion is syncing apple media players like iPods and
 ?iPads, although it can be done with apps like gtkpod, gtkpod has some
 ?accessibility issues. Depending on your business Linux might serve you
 ?very well or it isn?t even an option. I will add that for most general
 ?business tasks, word processing, calendaring, email, web browsing Linux
 ?works well. As for viruses, you are extremely unlikely to get malware
 if
 ?you use software available from your local software app, like software
 ?boutique for ubuntu or the official repositories of whatever Linux
 distro
 ?you pick. It is still theoretically possible, but you have to work hard
 at
 ?it to manage it. Software package managers like apt verify packages
 with
 ?unique hashes and won?t allow you to install software that doesn?t
 match
 ?those hashes by default, though this can be worked around if needed,
 it?s
 ?not a good idea to do so unless you know what you?re doing. Opinions
 ?differ on orca?s suitability as a day to day screen reader, my personal
 ?opinion is that it works very well. It has bugs like all software does,
 ?some of them annoying, but joanie does a fantastic job, and not just of
 ?fixing orca bugs, but bugs in other pieces of accessibility software.
 ?Linux also has apps for other disabilities, like onboard on screen
 ?keyboard and magnifiers, the best integrated into the gnome desktop and
 ?the compiz window manager.

 ?Thanks

 ?Kendell Clark

 ?*From: *Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chaltain gmail com>
 ?*Sent: *Monday, May 7, 2018 6:16 PM
 ?*To: *Krishnakant Mane <mailto:kkmane riseup net>; sonfire11 gmail com
 ?<mailto:sonfire11 gmail com>; orca-list gnome org
 ?<mailto:orca-list gnome org>
 ?*Subject: *Re: [orca-list] Ubuntu 18.04 used for general business

 ?Linux is safer then other operating systems, but it isn't virus free.
 ?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware

 ?I find Gnome to be your most accessible option, but I do know Mate is a
 ?very popular desktop, especially among the blind.

 ?On 05/07/2018 07:03 AM, Krishnakant Mane wrote:

 ???? Hi,

 ???? Firstly, ubuntu or any GNU/Linux brand for that matter is virus
 free.

 ???? There is a lot of stability and ease of working.

 ???? You can try GNUKhata an accounting software if your business is
 ???? big enough.? <testing.gnukhata.in> will give you the live demo.

 ???? If the work is very small and you want a stand-alone software, you
 ???? can try GNUCash, although I must warn that a lot of features are
 ???? primitive/ missing.

 ???? Another thing about? Ubuntu is that there is a lot of us who help
 ???? people do their computing with total comfort.

 ???? Now a days a lot of huge and medium enterprises are using Ubuntu
 ???? in their offices.

 ???? I would recommend using Ubuntu-mate 18.04 for best accessibility.

 ???? Spreadsheets are also working pretty much fine as far as
 ???? accessibility is concerned.

 ???? You may have to spend a little while to learn Orca.

 ???? Things like alt for menus and cut copy paste shortcuts are same.

 ???? Alt + f4 will close the application.

 ???? Most names of the menus in programs are also same.

 ???? So go ahead and feel those advantages for 0 cost!

 ???? happy hacking.

 ???? Krishnakant.

 ???? On Monday 07 May 2018 04:58 PM, sonfire11 gmail com
 ???? <mailto:sonfire11 gmail com> wrote:

 ???????? Hi,

 ???????? I will soon be a business owner. I want to know the benefits
 ???????? of using Ubuntu 18.04 over Windows 10 for general business
 ???????? scenarios. What are the pros/cons? What is better from an
 ???????? accessibility perspective? What financial record keeping apps
 ???????? are accessible? What about presentations?




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