Re: [orca-list] extremely exasperated with orca 3.27 and ubuntu mate 18.04



I'm using orca 3.27 and Ubuntu-Mate 18.04 with none of these problems; wondering what may be special in Kendle's setup?



--Dave





On 03/20/2018 03:11 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Sorry for being spammy. But in addition to the full debug.out, have you
tried using upstream Orca? (i.e. completely removing whatever Ubuntu is
shipping?) Orca's settings are not in dconf or gsettings or anything
else other than the files in $HOME/.local/share/orca. If the package
maintainers downstream have rolled their own alternative settings and
introduced associated bugs there might not be anything I can do upstream.
--joanie

On 03/20/2018 01:18 PM, kendell clark wrote:
hi all

I'm going to try to make this message simple to reproduce. I am having
the following issues with orca

Frequent freezes or out right crashes every minute and a half, two
minutes maximum after the desktop is loaded. Usually orca will stabilize
and begin working normally, but when this happens is completely random.
Because of this, steps to reproduce are going to be difficult, but I'm
going to try my best.Steps to reproduce

Start ub ubuntu mate 18.04. A flash drive should do fine. Orca will
start up after altwin+s is pressed. It will say "screen reader on"
followed by nothing. After about 30 seconds, sometimes a minute, orca
will either function normally, in other words say "desktop frame" and
you can use the computer normally, or it will continue to do nothing
until toggled. When toggled, orca will say "screenn reader off. Followed
by a pause of about five seconds, followed by screen reader settings
reloaded. If toggled again right after this, orca will occasionally see
the desktop and you can use the computer normally. Otherwise, it will
then say "screen reader off" and it will need to be toggled again. Once
orca does see the desktop, it frequently stops responding after a caja
window is opened at a folder, which exact folder doesn't matter. Orca
doesn't usually turn off when it messes up, it just stops reading all
applications including the desktop, but so far as I can see runs
normally. You can toggle it, and it will come back, only to have that
same 30 second to a minute and a half delay until it sees the desktop,
only to then freeze again ... rince and repeat. This is beyond
exasperating. I've reset my dconf settings at least five times, which
fixes the problem, temporarily, but it always comes back. I suspect a
debug log will show nothing, therefore people will be unable to see the
problem, but I can testify absolutely that there is a problem somewhere.
I want to try and help get this problem fixed. If a debug log will be
useful I'll gladly provide one. Downgrading to orca 3.26 fixes the
majority of these problems, so it's got to be something in newer
software, but beyond that I'm clueless. I don't mean to sound so
frustrated, but requiring an orca restart every couple of minutes when
I'm trying to get work done is just ... agrivating.

  I don't expect instantaneous performance from orca by any means, but
even when orca works normally, performance is generally sluggish. Typing
text into caa's location bar to complete file names works but will often
trip up orca, causing it to stop reading but otherwise function
normally. Navigation around the desktop is noticeably laggy, taking a
couple of seconds from key press to response. This is with using the
espeak ng speech synthesizer on a vizio ultrabook with 8 gb of ram, an
intel quad core processor, model number i3-3217U, an ssd with 250 gb of
storage, running ubuntu mate 18.04, bionic beaver, all updates
installed, including proposed updates.

Thanks

Kendell Clark


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