Re: [orca-list] extremely exasperated with orca 3.27 and ubuntu mate 18.04

[David Hunt <dahunt posteo de>]

I'm using orca 3.27 and Ubuntu-Mate 18.04 with none of these problems; 
wondering what may be special in Kendle's setup?



--Dave





On 03/20/2018 03:11 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Sorry for being spammy. But in addition to the full debug.out, have you
> tried using upstream Orca? (i.e. completely removing whatever Ubuntu is
> shipping?) Orca's settings are not in dconf or gsettings or anything
> else other than the files in $HOME/.local/share/orca. If the package
> maintainers downstream have rolled their own alternative settings and
> introduced associated bugs there might not be anything I can do upstream.
> --joanie
>
> On 03/20/2018 01:18 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > hi all
> >
> > I'm going to try to make this message simple to reproduce. I am having
> > the following issues with orca
> >
> > Frequent freezes or out right crashes every minute and a half, two
> > minutes maximum after the desktop is loaded. Usually orca will stabilize
> > and begin working normally, but when this happens is completely random.
> > Because of this, steps to reproduce are going to be difficult, but I'm
> > going to try my best.Steps to reproduce
> >
> > Start ub ubuntu mate 18.04. A flash drive should do fine. Orca will
> > start up after altwin+s is pressed. It will say "screen reader on"
> > followed by nothing. After about 30 seconds, sometimes a minute, orca
> > will either function normally, in other words say "desktop frame" and
> > you can use the computer normally, or it will continue to do nothing
> > until toggled. When toggled, orca will say "screenn reader off. Followed
> > by a pause of about five seconds, followed by screen reader settings
> > reloaded. If toggled again right after this, orca will occasionally see
> > the desktop and you can use the computer normally. Otherwise, it will
> > then say "screen reader off" and it will need to be toggled again. Once
> > orca does see the desktop, it frequently stops responding after a caja
> > window is opened at a folder, which exact folder doesn't matter. Orca
> > doesn't usually turn off when it messes up, it just stops reading all
> > applications including the desktop, but so far as I can see runs
> > normally. You can toggle it, and it will come back, only to have that
> > same 30 second to a minute and a half delay until it sees the desktop,
> > only to then freeze again ... rince and repeat. This is beyond
> > exasperating. I've reset my dconf settings at least five times, which
> > fixes the problem, temporarily, but it always comes back. I suspect a
> > debug log will show nothing, therefore people will be unable to see the
> > problem, but I can testify absolutely that there is a problem somewhere.
> > I want to try and help get this problem fixed. If a debug log will be
> > useful I'll gladly provide one. Downgrading to orca 3.26 fixes the
> > majority of these problems, so it's got to be something in newer
> > software, but beyond that I'm clueless. I don't mean to sound so
> > frustrated, but requiring an orca restart every couple of minutes when
> > I'm trying to get work done is just ... agrivating.
> >
> >   I don't expect instantaneous performance from orca by any means, but
> > even when orca works normally, performance is generally sluggish. Typing
> > text into caa's location bar to complete file names works but will often
> > trip up orca, causing it to stop reading but otherwise function
> > normally. Navigation around the desktop is noticeably laggy, taking a
> > couple of seconds from key press to response. This is with using the
> > espeak ng speech synthesizer on a vizio ultrabook with 8 gb of ram, an
> > intel quad core processor, model number i3-3217U, an ssd with 250 gb of
> > storage, running ubuntu mate 18.04, bionic beaver, all updates
> > installed, including proposed updates.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kendell Clark
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