Re: [orca-list] RFC: reporting spread sheet selection changes

[Majid Hussain <mhussaincov93 gmail com>]

could this not be made a toggleable thing?
for the people who like it one way they can go in to the orca settings
and tick a box?
sorry if this sounds stupid?
it then keeps both camps happy?
it's choise is it not?
linux plenty of choise with that
sorry if this adds more work.
I don't really have thoughts on this I don't use spreadsheets.
sorry if people think i'm butting in.

Majid


On 11/07/2018, sonfire11--- via orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> 1. What should Orca say if a bunch of cells are selected, and only one
> more becomes selected?
> [starting cell of selected range] through [last cell in selected range].
> Example: if A1 through C1 are the selected cells, Orca should say "A1
> through C2 selected" If pressing SHIFT+down arrow. It should say "A1 through
> D1 selected" if pressing SHIFT+right arrow.
>
> 2. What should Orca say if a bunch of cells are selected, and only one cell
> less becomes selected?
> The same as above: [starting cell of selected range] through [last cell in
> selected range]. The only difference is that the selected range of cells
> shrinks instead of expands.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces gnome org> On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 2:37 PM
> To: Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk>; Orca-list <ORCA-LIST gnome org>
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] RFC: reporting spread sheet selection changes
>
> Thanks Peter for writing this up!
>
> Point of clarification on a couple of things:
>
> 1. What should Orca say if a bunch of cells are selected, and only one
>    more becomes selected?
> 2. What should Orca say if a bunch of cells are selected, and only one
>    cell less becomes selected?
>
> --joanie
>
> On 07/11/2018 12:31 PM, Peter Vágner via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Regarding spread sheet selection changes here is something to discuss.
> > When selecting a range of cells in Libreoffice calc orca now presents
> > what has changed in regard to the selection.
> > I am coming from NVDA on Windows and I'm used to only hear what is
> > selected and not how I might have achieved current selection state.
> > So for example take these steps:
> > * move to cell D2 and press shift+ctrl+home. A1 through D2 becomes
> > selected and orca reports to the fact.
> > * Now press shift+down arrow. A1 through D1 becomes unselected and
> > orca reports to the fact. Selection of A2 through D2 stays unchanged
> > so orca does not present this range at all.
> > * I'd like to hear your thoughts what you like orca to report in such
> > a case. I'd like to hear A2 through D2 selected instead of A1 through
> > D1 unselected when manipulating selected range of cells like this.
> > * The same goes for selection expansion if A1 through D2 are all
> > selected I press down arrow I'd prefer to hear A1 through D3 selected
> > instead of A3 through D3 selected.
> >
> > I understand currently it's implemented like this because it's in sync
> > with text selection and document content selection in general.
> > I know reporting start and end of the selection range all the time may
> > seem like it would introduce extra verbosity but the fact other screen
> > readers on different platforms are working like this is more important
> > to me than staying in sync with text selection reporting.
> >
> > I'd be happy to hear from hardcore linux users that are using linux as
> > their only platform of choice when it comes to accessible computing. I
> > would like to make sure these users have no expectations because of a
> > different platform they might have used previously.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
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-- 
kind regards,
Majid Hussain