Re: [orca-list] RFC: reporting spread sheet selection changes

[<sonfire11 gmail com>]

I agree with you on this. I want to hear the entire selected range
coordinates as the selection changes. NVDA, JAWS, and VoiceOver on OSX does
it, and Orca should fall in line with the rest. However, Orca should also
report the text in each cell as it selects them.



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From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces gnome org> On Behalf Of Peter Vágner via
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 12:32 PM
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Subject: [orca-list] RFC: reporting spread sheet selection changes

Hello,

Regarding spread sheet selection changes here is something to discuss.
When selecting a range of cells in Libreoffice calc orca now presents what
has changed in regard to the selection.
I am coming from NVDA on Windows and I'm used to only hear what is selected
and not how I might have achieved current selection state.
So for example take these steps:
* move to cell D2 and press shift+ctrl+home. A1 through D2 becomes selected
and orca reports to the fact.
* Now press shift+down arrow. A1 through D1 becomes unselected and orca
reports to the fact. Selection of A2 through D2 stays unchanged so orca does
not present this range at all.
* I'd like to hear your thoughts what you like orca to report in such a
case. I'd like to hear A2 through D2 selected instead of A1 through D1
unselected when manipulating selected range of cells like this.
* The same goes for selection expansion if A1 through D2 are all selected I
press down arrow I'd prefer to hear A1 through D3 selected instead of A3
through D3 selected.

I understand currently it's implemented like this because it's in sync with
text selection and document content selection in general.
I know reporting start and end of the selection range all the time may seem
like it would introduce extra verbosity but the fact other screen readers on
different platforms are working like this is more important to me than
staying in sync with text selection reporting.

I'd be happy to hear from hardcore linux users that are using linux as their
only platform of choice when it comes to accessible computing. I would like
to make sure these users have no expectations because of a different
platform they might have used previously.

Greetings

Peter

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