Re: [orca-list] Getting started using orca under ubuntu

[Jacob Kruger <jacob blindza co za>]

Maybe this is then not gnome - also testing it under a default 
installation of ubuntu 16.04 under a VMWare virtual machine under 
windows 10, and, if I hit alt + F1, it brings up a form of software 
listing, focused on a search box, but, only lists like 5 applications 
there, and, if I hit the super/windows key, it tells me unity launcher 
-, and, hitting alt + f10 activates the system settings, network 
connections, etc., menu?


And, here, alt + tab, and ctrl + alt + tab seem to have same functionality?


Will fire up the desktop PC, and see if it reacts the same way, but, I 
think it does.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/01 15:52, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> Assuming you're running Gnome, control+alt+tab will take you into the 
> top bar. You should hear something like "top bar, not pressed 
> activities not pressed". If you hit right arrow, you'll move across 
> the menu and when you get to the far right, you'll be in the system 
> menu. Now you can down arrow to wifi, bluetooth, volume, screen 
> brightness, battery charge and power/suspend.
>
>
> To get to the applications you have on your system, hit super first. 
> You'll hear "windows". Now hit control+alt+tab once and you'll be in 
> the dash. Hear you can arrow up and down through your list of 
> favorites. If you hit super and then control+alt+tab three times, 
> you'll hear "applications" and this will be the list of applications 
> you have on your system.
>
>
> If you want to use the GUI to install new software, hit super and then 
> hit control+alt+tab three times to get into your list of applications. 
> Now down and right arrow over to software and press enter. You'll be 
> able to search for, install new software, uninstall existing software 
> or update software you already have on your system.
>
>
> I use Thunderfird for my email software and Firefox as my web browser, 
> although I'll also occasionally use Chrome with ChromeVox. I just use 
> the built in File browser, which is called Files on the favorites 
> list. For editing, I'll use Gedit for a quick edit, but I spend most 
> of my time in Emacs with Emacspeak. For multimedia, I usually just 
> find what I want to listen to and use the Video option in the context 
> menu. You also have RhythmBox on your Ubuntu 16.04 system, and of 
> course, there are other options.
>
>
> On 01/01/2018 07:19 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
> > Christopher, all ctrl + alt + tab seems to do is bring up the 
> > switcher window, whether or not I first hit super key, or whether I 
> > hit it once, twice, or three times?
> >
> > Effectively, I am trying to find installed software, as well as 
> > possibly install additional packages via the GUI interface?
> >
> > Would then also ask for recommendations for basic pieces of software, 
> > like e-mail client software, multimedia playback software, 
> > programmer's code editor software, web browser of choice, file 
> > explorer software, etc. etc.?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jacob Kruger
> >  Blind Biker
> > Skype: BlindZA
> > "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
> >
> > On 2018/01/01 00:59, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > > I run Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome and Orca. I can't tell from your 
> > > message what you're trying to do. If you ask how to do something, I 
> > > can tell you how I would get it done in this environment.
> > >
> > >
> > > You could try hitting control+alt+tab to get you to the top bar. 
> > > Right arrow to the various menus and then down arrow. I find 
> > > everything is spoken.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just hit the super key followed by control+alt+tab to get to the 
> > > dash or hit it three times to get to the list of applications on 
> > > your system.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/29/2017 08:16 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
> > > > I am busy setting up a second machine, which might become my 
> > > > primary development platform, since I am primarily a web developer, 
> > > > who works with PHP, etc..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, my primary platform up to now has been windows, working 
> > > > with the NVDA screen reader, but, I have already got a desktop PC, 
> > > > with a 275Gb solid-state drive, which has ubuntu 16.04 installed on 
> > > > it, with orca up and running, and, I am pretty comfortable with the 
> > > > object navigation/screen review commands, since they are relatively 
> > > > similar to NVDA on the windows platform's object navigation, and, 
> > > > also since I have played around with raspberry pi mini computers in 
> > > > the past, running the raspbian version of debian linux - there 
> > > > worked with a version of speakUp, working primarily command line.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, my introductory question actually relates to the use of 
> > > > Ubuntu, and/or the configuration thereof.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is since neither the gnome menu/search box, brought up using 
> > > > left alt+F1, and the unity launcher, brought up using the 
> > > > super/windows key on the keyboard seem to offer much in conjunction 
> > > > with orca - not with current configuration, in any case?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is since both of them seem to, at various points, just not 
> > > > read out focus items to me, or, under unity launcher, it will just 
> > > > tell me something like "push button", without reading any form of 
> > > > description beyond that out to me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In other words, should I consider a prior version of ubuntu, or a 
> > > > completely different instance of linux, or is there some additional 
> > > > setting, or form of configuration I should look into?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lastly, the reason I am asking these questions is since I would 
> > > > want to use the machine as a complete PC, working on it as a coding 
> > > > platform, as well as my work machine, and for leisure activities 
> > > > like reading eBooks, playing music, audio editing, etc. etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Jacob Kruger
> > > > Blind Biker
> > > > Skype: BlindZA
> > > > "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
> > > >
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