Re: [orca-list] aria-label on links not read by Orca

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Alex.

Doesn't NVDA have a virtual buffer? Orca doesn't. It's fairly
straightforward to prevent navigation in something that should not be
caret navigable. I strongly suspect it will be a lot more work to add
letter-by-letter caret navigation for things which are not there.

--joanie

On 04/24/2018 10:16 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> Hello Joanmarie,
>
> I've tested what it's done with NVDA on Windows 10, it is possible to
> navigate with arrow keys on the link.
>
> As the user is not aware of the content is not visible on the screen,
> Orca should make it possible to navigate with arrow keys only in the
> context of aria-label.
>
> After a long discussion with blind friends, we couldn't find the others
> solutions satisfactory.
>
> I've added Armony in CC, a French web expert that could give us her
> input on the topic.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex.
>
> Le 29/03/2018 à 18:13, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > Hi Alex.
> >
> > Orca should now present the label when speaking the link. Note that I
> > have not yet changed the braille behavior or the caret navigation. So if
> > you do something like:
> >
> >     <a href="bla.html" aria-label="foo">What sighted users can see</a>
> >
> > Tabbing to the link should result in "foo" being spoken. But you cannot
> > arrow amongst the characters f o o because those characters are not on
> > the screen and Orca does not have any sort of virtual buffer. So you
> > have a choice:
> >
> > 1. I can leave things the way they are (you can navigate amongst "What
> >     sighted users can see"), or
> >
> > 2. I can make textual links which have aria-label work more like images
> >     (i.e. prevent navigation in "what sighted users can see", which is
> >     the case if you had an image link which displayed a graphic with
> >     those words in it).
> >
> > Which would you like me to do?
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 03/29/2018 05:02 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Environment:
> > > - Debian sid
> > > - Firefox 59
> > > - Orca master
> > >
> > > Steps to reproduce:
> > > 1) Open Firefox
> > > 2) Paste this content on the URL bar: data:text/html, <a
> > > href="taxhike.html" aria-label="Read more about Seminole tax hike">[Read
> > > more...]</a>
> > > This content comes from:
> > > https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose#Examples
> > >
> > >
> > > Result: Orca reads "Read more..."
> > > Expected results: Orca should read "Read more about Seminole tax hike"
> > >
> > > The final use case is to make image links (without img) readable by Orca
> > > with aria-label. For example: <a class="icon-thumbs-up" title="Accept
> > > translation" style="" id="gwt-debug-target-0-accept"></a>
> > > I assume adding aria-label should make the link readable by Orca.
> > >
> > > Best regards.
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