Re: [orca-list] aria-label on links not read by Orca



Hi Alex.

Doesn't NVDA have a virtual buffer? Orca doesn't. It's fairly
straightforward to prevent navigation in something that should not be
caret navigable. I strongly suspect it will be a lot more work to add
letter-by-letter caret navigation for things which are not there.

--joanie

On 04/24/2018 10:16 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
Hello Joanmarie,

I've tested what it's done with NVDA on Windows 10, it is possible to
navigate with arrow keys on the link.

As the user is not aware of the content is not visible on the screen,
Orca should make it possible to navigate with arrow keys only in the
context of aria-label.

After a long discussion with blind friends, we couldn't find the others
solutions satisfactory.

I've added Armony in CC, a French web expert that could give us her
input on the topic.

Best regards,
Alex.

Le 29/03/2018 à 18:13, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
Hi Alex.

Orca should now present the label when speaking the link. Note that I
have not yet changed the braille behavior or the caret navigation. So if
you do something like:

    <a href="bla.html" aria-label="foo">What sighted users can see</a>

Tabbing to the link should result in "foo" being spoken. But you cannot
arrow amongst the characters f o o because those characters are not on
the screen and Orca does not have any sort of virtual buffer. So you
have a choice:

1. I can leave things the way they are (you can navigate amongst "What
    sighted users can see"), or

2. I can make textual links which have aria-label work more like images
    (i.e. prevent navigation in "what sighted users can see", which is
    the case if you had an image link which displayed a graphic with
    those words in it).

Which would you like me to do?

--joanie

On 03/29/2018 05:02 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
Hello all,

Environment:
- Debian sid
- Firefox 59
- Orca master

Steps to reproduce:
1) Open Firefox
2) Paste this content on the URL bar: data:text/html, <a
href="taxhike.html" aria-label="Read more about Seminole tax hike">[Read
more...]</a>
This content comes from:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose#Examples


Result: Orca reads "Read more..."
Expected results: Orca should read "Read more about Seminole tax hike"

The final use case is to make image links (without img) readable by Orca
with aria-label. For example: <a class="icon-thumbs-up" title="Accept
translation" style="" id="gwt-debug-target-0-accept"></a>
I assume adding aria-label should make the link readable by Orca.

Best regards.

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