Howdy, You do have some good points here. Still frustrating though. I've taken this thing ever year since I first found out about it, and every year it's the same. Well, I think they finally did add Talkback. On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:38:34PM +0300, Zahari Yurukov wrote:
Hi, Note, that they still include Linux and Orca in the final results, so there's still a point of us showing up. The main damage of not including Linux and Orca as options in the questions is that users of other platforms, who don't know that this is an option, will continue to be ignorant. And even if they've heard about Linux a11y, excluding it from the survey signals to them that it's not a viable option. However, being present in the final results is still something - those are read (supposedly) by developers, so it would be good if they see there are Linux and Orca users, who use Firefox, accessibility on Linux is improving, etc. And as I mentioned Firefox, it continues to be browser number one for accessibility, so it would be good if we boost it's rating a bit, giving that JAWS users use primarily Internet Explorer. -- Best wishes, Zahari Janina Sajka via orca-list wrote: Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 07:22:26AM -0400I regret to say so, but I'm with Kyle on this one. Please note that there's more here than just this cyclical survey. There anti floss bias is evident in all their work. Janina Kyle writes: > This would seem to be a waste of my time. I gave up on this survey at least > 4 surveys ago, when we were still relegated to "other please specify" status > in spite of the calls for a strong showing during the first 2 or 3 surveys. > It's time to face facts. They simply will never hear us. Sad, but true. > Sent from my Atari 800 > _______________________________________________ > orca-list mailing list > orca-list gnome org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ > GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina asterisk rednote net Email: janina rednote net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org_______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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