Re: [orca-list] impact firefox 57 and orca

[Zahari Yurukov <zahari yurukov gmail com>]

Hi,
I've tested Firefox 57 on Fedora 27. It works with Orca.
It's slower than Firefox 56, though I'm not sure it's not because NoScript doesn't run on Firefox 57 yet, and 
that's what I'm using constantly.
That said, all my add-ons were disabled do to incompatibility.
So I've downgraded with:
sudo dnf downgrade firefox
And blacklisted firefox in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf
exclude=firefox

I've read that Firefox 56 will have extended support, but I'm not sure how that will propagate to different 
distributions.
So if you have important add-ons - better stick with Firefox 56 for now.
If not - you could try Firefox 57, and if you could bare the speed - continue with it, or downgrade otherwise.

-- 
Best wishes,
Zahari

  Krishnakant wrote:
Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 09:58:03AM +0530

>    I had a quick check yesterday evening (in India ) and it seems so far so
>    good.
>    I thought Orca took a flash bit more time to respond on page load but then
>    it was pretty much responsive.
>    I haven't done any advance testing though.
>    Just navigating using arrows and tab + shift-tab etc.
>    Links are getting announced so ar headings.
>    Happy hacking.
>    Krishnakant.
>
>    On Monday 30 October 2017 09:10 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
>
>      If you run Firefox Beta or Nightly, would that not immediately answer
>      the question of whether 57+ will work with Orca? That's what I intend to
>      do before upgrading /usr/bin/firefox to 57, at which point I'll either
>      pin the package or make the upgrade as the situation warrants.
>
>      On 10/30/2017 07:37 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
>
>        Hello,
>
>        The related work has just been started at Mozilla side of things. Have
>        you also read that linked article written by Marco Zehe at about a
>        month ago?
>        [1]https://www.marcozehe.de/2017/09/29/rethinking-web-accessibility-on-windows/
>        The work is mostly related to browser vs AT navigation paradigm on
>        Windows, however I imagine at-spi2 support within Firefox might also
>        be affected mainly if they change some shared API in Firefox.
>        Nor at-spi nor orca currently uses techniques they are about changing
>        so if a possible compatibility will arise it won't be planned.
>        I would advise to test with nightly version of Firefox so we can
>        quickly discover issues as they arise during this period when Firefox
>        accessibility is going to be in partial rewrite. Perhaps when we can
>        gently report issues, we might get lucky and more of the a11y bugs
>        will get solved at Firefox side of things. I guess linux a11y has not
>        been touched for ages within Mozilla code base.
>
>        Greetings
>
>        Peter
>
>        2017-10-30 11:20 GMT+01:00 Majid Hussain <[2]mhussaincov93 gmail com>:
>
>          hi there,
>          an odd question I know, but I saw this URL from vfo in regards to
>          firefox buggyness more specifically firefox 57
>          will this effect us here in linux land and orca?
>          [3]http://blog.freedomscientific.com/2017/10/25/important-information-for-users-of-mozilla-firefox/
>          another artical in regards to this,
>          [4]https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/28293
>          sorry if this is ot by a great margen but was interested.
>          thanks for reading,
>          Majid Hussain
>
>          --
>          kind regards,
>          Majid Hussain
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>  Orca wiki: [13]https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>  Orca documentation: [14]https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>  GNOME Universal Access guide: [15]https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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>  [17]orca-list gnome org
>  [18]https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>  Orca wiki: [19]https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>  Orca documentation: [20]https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>  GNOME Universal Access guide: [21]https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>  Log bugs and feature requests at [22]http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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> References
>
>    Visible links
>    1. https://www.marcozehe.de/2017/09/29/rethinking-web-accessibility-on-windows/
>    2. mailto:mhussaincov93 gmail com
>    3. http://blog.freedomscientific.com/2017/10/25/important-information-for-users-of-mozilla-firefox/
>    4. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/28293
>    5. mailto:orca-list gnome org
>    6. https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>    7. https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>    8. https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>    9. https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>   10. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
>   11. mailto:orca-list gnome org
>   12. https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>   13. https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>   14. https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>   15. https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>   16. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
>   17. mailto:orca-list gnome org
>   18. https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>   19. https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>   20. https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>   21. https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>   22. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/

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