Re: [orca-list] Orca won't start, probably because trackpad is deactivated

[Milton <milton duurzaamdigitaal org>]

Hi Simon,


I don't know if this will be of any help. I last met with the same after 
installing Ubuntu 16.04.2 on a desktop and reboot. With a screen on it 
turns to black and Orca stops just like you described.
Then someone installed Kernel 10.2.x and after that all is well, Orca 
does his job and the screen works.
Milton
Op 21-03-17 om 19:53 schreef Simon Eigeldinger:
> Hi Joannie,
>
> i figured out with debian testing i have the issue as well.
> it boots but then when it wants to boot gnome you can hear orca saying 
> screen reader on but then stops talking.
> this is on a installed debian testing which i have installed from the 
> CLI.
>
> so i wonder what this is caused by.
> the x server or gnome.
>
> i talked to the wayland team and according to them this shouldn't be a 
> problem using wayland. the wayland adapter for gnome needs a change to 
> accept screenless boots.
>
> greetings,
> Simon
>
>
>
> Am 20.03.2017 um 11:48 schrieb Joanmarie Diggs:
> > Hi Simon.
> >
> > If it is the case that the machine will not boot, then there is nothing
> > I can do about this within Orca.
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 03/19/2017 02:15 PM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
> > > Hi Joannie,
> > >
> > > I have also a strange thing with orca or the whole system not starting.
> > > seems when you have no screen attached the machine doesn't boot.
> > > tried with a bunch of distros.
> > > Fedora, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu Gnome, Paldo, Antergos, Sonar Gnome, etc.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Simon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 19.03.2017 um 13:10 schrieb Joanmarie Diggs:
> > > > Thanks Devin. I'll take a look.
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On 03/18/2017 10:15 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> > > > > Hi all. Sending this with Emacs+emacspeak because of this bug. I
> > > > > disabled my trackpad, FN+F7, so I wouldn't accidentally touch or 
> > > > > click
> > > > > it while using the keyboard and all that. So, I restarted, orca 
> > > > > wouldn't
> > > > > start, although it doesn't start on the log in screen anyways. I 
> > > > > log in
> > > > > using the little pops and such the soundcard or pulse makes when it
> > > > > starts to know when to press enter, type password, enter. I can live
> > > > > with that, I suppose. Anyways, I log in, and orca still didn't 
> > > > > start. I
> > > > > press alt+f2, type orca, still nothing. I pressed alt+super+s, still
> > > > > nothing. So, here's the debug.out file.
> > > > >
> > > > > 21:08:31 - SETTINGS MANAGER: Attempt to load orca-customizations from
> > > > > /home/devin/.local/share/orca/orca-customizations.py succeeded.
> > > > > 21:08:31 - SETTINGS MANAGER: Activated
> > > > > 21:08:31 - ORCA: Initializing
> > > > > 21:08:31 - ORCA: Loading User Settings
> > > > > 21:08:31 - SCRIPT MANAGER: Dectivating
> > > > > 21:08:31 - SCRIPT MANAGER: Deactivated
> > > > > Fatal Python error: Segmentation fault
> > > > > Stack (most recent call first):
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/mouse_review.py",
> > > > > line 207 in activate
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/mouse_review.py",
> > > > > line 196 in __init__
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/mouse_review.py",
> > > > > line 345 in <module>
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 222 in
> > > > > _call_with_frames_removed
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 697 in 
> > > > > exec_module
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 673 in _load_unlocked
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 958 in
> > > > > _find_and_load_unlocked
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 969 in _find_and_load
> > > > >   File
> > > > > "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/scripts/default.py",
> > > > > line 57 in <module>
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 222 in
> > > > > _call_with_frames_removed
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 697 in 
> > > > > exec_module
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 673 in _load_unlocked
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 958 in
> > > > > _find_and_load_unlocked
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 969 in _find_and_load
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 222 in
> > > > > _call_with_frames_removed
> > > > >   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1016 in _handle_fromlist
> > > > >   File
> > > > > "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/script_manager.py", line
> > > > > 210 in getDefaultScript
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line
> > > > > 357 in loadUserSettings
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line
> > > > > 514 in init
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line
> > > > > 696 in main
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/bin/orca", line 269 in main
> > > > >   File "/usr/local/bin/orca", line 272 in <module>
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