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Re: [orca-list] Intermittent focus vs browse mode switching when writing messages in Thunderbird

Sorry to keep doing this, but I just got a stupid error I made (leaving
a no-longer-valid import after removing some code. This is why I really
should not respond to pings and requests when I am in the middle of
something else). Anyway, this stupid error would account for some of
these issues. One more time with the master pull please? And sorry!
--joanie

On 02/23/2017 06:06 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:

Hello,


A lot has happened since you have asked me to generate a new debug out
yesterday.

Unfortunatelly this issue still persists for me with both GTK2 and GTK3
based builds of Thunderbird.

I have prepared two debug out files first with GTK2 based build and the
other with GTK3 based build of Thunderbird.

In both cases I can see the same behaviour however it took me more
keypresses to break out of focus mode when using GTK2 based build of
Thunderbird.

I am going to try downgrading orca to figure out when this might have
started.

Here are the files I have prepared:

With GTK2 build of thunderbird
http://files.pvagner.tk/debug-2017-02-23-11:43:08.out

With GTK3 build of thunderbird:
http://files.pvagner.tk/debug-2017-02-23-11:55:25.out


Greetings


Peter



On 02/23/2017 12:00 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

Hi Peter.

I can confirm that you experienced what you described, but I am not
seeing the debugging output I expected which should tell me if Orca
concluded you were in an editable message or not. (And that conclusion
is meant to dictate whether or not structural navigation keys work or
not.)

That debugging output was included as part of a SeaMonkey-related
change, but should also appear for Thunderbird. It looks like I
committed it within half an hour of your sending this message, so....
Bad timing. Sorry!

If you can reliably reproduce this issue (I tried your steps, but
structural navigation did not kick in), it would be helpful to have a
debug.out with the information regarding editable messages.

Thanks again!
--joanie

On 02/22/2017 03:46 PM, Peter Vágner wrote:

Hello

I have loaded the message I'm replying to, waited until orca read first
two lines, pressed up arrow, then pressed ctrl+r to bring up the new
reply window, then I have typed word Hello, then tryed to navigate
around and trying to type in letter a, finally pressed ctrl+home,
navigated past the text hello by pressing the down arrow key. I have
then pressed shift+h to start typing yet another Hello and guess what,
I've received no more headings message from orca.


Here is the debug.out.

http://files.pvagner.tk/debug-2017-02-22-21:36:10.out

,



On 02/22/2017 06:18 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

Hey Peter.

Focus mode is meant to be enforced when writing messages in
Thunderbird.
If that is not happening, then the two possibilities which spring to my
mind are:

1) Orca does not believe you're writing a message. This can result from
     missing, broken, or otherwise confusing states and/or state-change
     events.

2) Orca doesn't think you're in Thunderbird. This can result from the
     destruction and creation of the accessible associated with the
window
     you're in.

The double-presentation of lines in Gecko are due to the destruction
and
creation of window accessibles. I'm trying to hack around that in Orca,
but there are still situations where I'm apparently not doing that
quite
right.

Could you please send me a full debug.out, captured from the latest
master, and using Thunderbird built against Gtk+2 (having seen your
other message, I don't want to introduce too many variables into the
mix).

Thanks!
--joanie

On 02/22/2017 11:55 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:

Hello,

I can't properly diagnose this one but it's a bit anoying to me so
I'll
try to describe what I think is going on, perhaps you will be able to
guess what to do about it or suggest me how to understand it.

When replying to a message in Thunderbird, message window appears
when I
press reply button. The cursor is placed in an empty paragraph at the
top of the message.
I sometimes tend to press the down arrow key to read a bit of the
message I'm replying to.
I think when cursor passes empty paragraphs or some change in the
formatting it sometimes switches to browse mode so I have to press
orca+a to switch back to focus mode.
I think it also happens when pressing ctrl+home or pressing left arrow
key when the cursor is on the first character in the freshly opened
new
reply window.
I don't know if this is possible but I would prefer if focus mode was
enforced when writing messages in thunderbird.
Might this cause some other side effects?

I think this is a regression since a few days / weeks ago. If it may
help I'll try downgrading orca to try finding out when this has
started
happening.


Greetings

Peter




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