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Re: [orca-list] orca-list Digest, Vol 143, Issue 18

Hello,
Sadly I can't write to the orca-mailinglist anymore. I have tried to
change the passwd, deleting my subscription etc but nothing seemed to
work. Actually I am still subscribed even though I had a confirmation
that my subscribtion has been canceled from the managing website.

Since I don't really want to cancel my subscribtion and just be able
to discuss on the mailinglist again I don't mind the E-Mail-summeries
but I am really confused why sending to the Mailinglist just throwes
errors at me.

Help would be appreciated.

Greetings from Germany

Dennis

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Thunderbird : when writing mail, Orca stops to read
      lines with link (Joanmarie Diggs)
   2. Re:  One question for Unity and Gnome accessibility future
      (Krishnakant Mane)
   3. Re:  One question for Unity and Gnome accessibility future
      (Alex ARNAUD)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:07:54 -0500
From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
To: Peter V?gner <pvdeejay gmail com>
Cc: Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Thunderbird : when writing mail, Orca stops
        to read lines with link
Message-ID: <3c3a0a40-fba6-e934-f4c7-1972aa40a126 igalia com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I believe both issues are addressed. What I changed was to handle a
potential edge case. The worst case is if that edge case is not
addressed, Orca will repeat something. That's better than a crash.

On 12/07/2017 08:56 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:

Hello,

Orca is now responsive when using Gmail again.

Frankly I'm getting lost in the chain of issues and their workarounds
that I can't really say if we are in a good state now.

Are both issues supposed to be addressed now, i.e. the one raised by
Alex and the freezing / crash I have pointed out?

Thanks and greetings

Peter


2017-12-07 14:05 GMT+01:00 Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
<mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>:

    I just removed the sanity check that appears to be triggering the crash.
    Please pull master and test again. Thanks!
    --joanie

    On 12/07/2017 03:21 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I can reproduce it all the time.
    >
    > The orca goes unresponsive and as soon as I try to exit it at-spi2 crashes.
    >
    > I am not sure what triggers it because I am getting it all the time when
    > the document content refreshes on gmail.
    >
    > I'm running all the relevant libs with debug symbols included
    > (at-spi2-core, glibc, glib2, libffi, pygobject, python) so I am going to
    > send you all the debug stuff I was able to collect in a seperate message.
    > If you think I can provide more details, I will do that please let me
    > know what to add or what to check if you know that.
    >
    > Greetings
    >
    > Peter
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > 2017-12-06 15:32 GMT+01:00 Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>
    > <mailto:jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>>:
    >
    >? ? ?I'm not seeing this problem. I'm using Orca master and Firefox nightly.
    >? ? ?I can take a guess at a fix, but the fix I have in mind might also not
    >? ? ?work. How reliably can you reproduce this bug?
    >
    >? ? ?On 12/06/2017 03:57 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
    >? ? ?> Hello,
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?> I am afraid this might be causing a huge regression when browsing the
    >? ? ?> web with Firefox.
    >? ? ?> Environment: Gnome 3.26, orca master (since 7c4971022), Firefox 57 or
    >? ? ?> Firefox 59.
    >? ? ?> Steps:
    >? ? ?> - Go to gmail.com <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com>
    <http://gmail.com> and open a
    >? ? ?conversation from your
    >? ? ?> inbox.
    >? ? ?> - Make sure orca is running and providing the access to the gmail UI
    >? ? ?> including the conversation you have just opened.
    >? ? ?> - Now press the alt+left arrow instructing Firefox to move to the
    >? ? ?> previous page.
    >? ? ?> Results:
    >? ? ?> Gmail inbox is displayed however orca stops responding. It fails to
    >? ? ?> present the browser window and also all the other windows when switched
    >? ? ?> into by pressing alt+tab key.
    >? ? ?> More over I assume this might even be related to at-spi2-core because if
    >? ? ?> I now press alt+super+s to toggle orca it will turn of with Screen
    >? ? ?> reader off message but I can only get it toggled back on by running orca
    >? ? ?> --replace.
    >? ? ?> Expected result:
    >? ? ?> I am expecting orca to not become unresponsive and continue reporting
    >? ? ?> the web content and all the other windows when switched into them the
    >? ? ?> same way it's doing in orca master up to 752d0443d .
    >? ? ?> In other words orca master 752d0443d is working fine in regard to this
    >? ? ?> issue and orca master 7c4971022 has issues.
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?> Thanks and greetings
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?> Peter
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?> 2017-12-04 13:00 GMT+01:00 Alex ARNAUD <alexarnaud hypra fr <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr>
    <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr>>
    >? ? ?> <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr>
    <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr <mailto:alexarnaud hypra fr>>>>:
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Hi Joanie,
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?I confirm that this bug is fixed in master. Thanks a lot !
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Best regards.
    >? ? ?>? ? ?--
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Alex ARNAUD
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Visual-Impairment Project Manager
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Hypra - "Humanizing technology"
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Le 02/12/2017 ? 17:47, Joanmarie Diggs a ?crit?:
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ?Hi Alex.
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ?This is now fixed for me in master. Please test and
    let me
    >? ? ?know.
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ?Thanks!
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ?--joanie
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ?On 12/02/2017 09:36 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dear all,
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Environment:
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Debian Sid updated
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Thunderbird 52.4
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Orca master
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?When I'm writing an HTML mail and when I add a
    link to a
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?line, Orca is
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?not longer able to read the line.
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Steps to reproduce:
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?1) Open Thunderbird (GTK3 here)
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?2) Write a new mail (here in a new window)
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?3) Tab until to switch to the message body
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?4) Add the following line : "Hello world, I've
    >? ? ?difficulties
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?to write
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?HTML mail in a productive way"
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?5) Add link somewhere in two words of the line :
    maybe
    >? ? ?add a
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?link to "to
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?write" that target www.gnome.org
    <http://www.gnome.org>
    >? ? ?<http://www.gnome.org> <http://www.gnome.org>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?5) Press the return key
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?6) Press up arrow
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Result: Orca stays silent
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Expected result: Orca should announce the line when the
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?caret moves on
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Best regards.
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?_______________________________________________
    >? ? ?>? ? ?orca-list mailing list
    >? ? ?>? ? ?orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>
    <mailto:orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>>
    >? ? ?<mailto:orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>
    <mailto:orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
    <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>
    >? ? ?<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
    <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
    <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>
    >? ? ?<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
    <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
    <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
    >? ? ?<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
    <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
    <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
    >? ? ?<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
    <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Orca documentation:
    https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
    >? ? ?<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
    >? ? ?<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?GNOME Universal Access guide:
    >? ? ?>? ? ?https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
    >? ? ?<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
    >? ? ?>? ?
    ?<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
    >? ? ?<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
    <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>>
    >? ? ?>? ? ?Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
    >? ? ?>
    >? ? ?>
    >
    >




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 10:11:52 +0530
From: Krishnakant Mane <kkmane riseup net>
To: Alex ARNAUD <alexarnaud hypra fr>
Cc: Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [orca-list] One question for Unity and Gnome
        accessibility future
Message-ID: <365ec580-2b7c-f283-1360-b5ca2a807837 riseup net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8



On Thursday 07 December 2017 07:05 PM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:

Hello Krishnakant,

Unfortunately I don't find any way to obtain an old Ubuntu package.
You can install Orca 3.22 with the patch but not 3.20. The Ubuntu
version of Orca 3.22 is available here :
https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/all/gnome-orca/download

HI Alex,
Problem is not with Orca, I already compiled it.
The problem is with the unity fixes which Luke had made and there were
in the accessibility ppa for Ubuntu 16.04.
happy hacking.
Krishnakant.


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 10:46:15 +0100
From: Alex ARNAUD <alexarnaud hypra fr>
To: Krishnakant Mane <kkmane riseup net>
Cc: Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [orca-list] One question for Unity and Gnome
        accessibility future
Message-ID: <a7535c05-af6d-a2b5-c446-41de3ce68df2 hypra fr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Le 08/12/2017 ? 05:41, Krishnakant Mane a ?crit?:

HI Alex,
Problem is not with Orca, I already compiled it.
The problem is with the unity fixes which Luke had made and there were
in the accessibility ppa for Ubuntu 16.04.


The Unity patch is shipped in all version of Orca for Ubuntu.

Best regards.
--
Alex ARNAUD
Visual-Impairment Project Manager
Hypra - "Humanizing technology"


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