Re: [orca-list] Inaccessible Calendar

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Nolan.

The reason the existing Orca command to click on the current element
fails in Firefox was due to a bug in Firefox/Gecko in which setting the
caret wasn't causing items to be scrolled into view. That has recently
been fixed in Nightly. Have you tried it yet?

And the way the click command is supposed to work in Orca is to check if
flat review is active. If it's not (i.e. you're just reading/interacting
with the web page in browse or focus mode), it should click on the
current item. If you're using Firefox Nightly and not finding that,
please let me know.

HTH.
--joanie

On 12/05/2017 11:03 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> I must have missed the "we don't want to override Enter" discussions,
> but I wish we'd reconsider that. In an ideal world, websites wouldn't
> make us jump through these hoops at all, but whenever they do, and that
> is very often, I have to either:
>
>
>  * Press ALt-Shift-A to pull up a list of clickables.
>
>  * Wait, possibly several seconds.
>
>  * Press Alt-A to click the item I want. Usually this is the item I'm
> on, so the step of pulling up a list and waiting several seconds was
> unnecessary.
>
>
> Or:
>
>
>  * I try routing the cursor.
>
>  * I then simulate a click. Usually this doesn't work and lands me
> somewhere in my tray. I try it because it usually fails faster when it
> doesn't work, though when it occasionally does it saves me some time.
>
>
> If we have a good reason for not overriding Enter, which I assume there
> is, can we create a keybinding to simulate a click on the
> currently-focused item? Or maybe that's what the key to simulate mouse
> clicks does, and I shouldn't need to route my cursor? But I'd expect
> routing my cursor and simulating a left-click to be identical to my
> first procedure. It'd also be useful to click on whatever has
> keyboard-focus rather than relying on fragile flat review.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On 12/05/2017 02:50 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > If you take into account differences how to emulate clicks with orca
> > and how to do the same thing with NVDA this site works the same way
> > with orca as with NVDA.
> > The thing is that date selector displays its calendar in a table. None
> > of the entries within the table are focusable so there is no way to
> > interact with that part except of emulating clicks on the table cells
> > corresponding with day numbers. When using NVDA you can just use table
> > navigation features to locate the day you wish and press the enter key
> > to synthesize a click.
> > With orca you can also use table navigation commands to find your day
> > however you have to either move flat review to the current clickable
> > or you have to use list of clickables in order to be able to
> > synthesize a click.
> > I am not sure if this can be improved at orca side of things given the
> > fact we wish not to override enter key presses as discussed several
> > times in the past.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > 2017-12-04 21:56 GMT+01:00 Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
> > <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>:
> >
> >     All I'm seeing from Firefox when I arrow are children being added and
> >     removed. That happens sometimes with live regions, but I don't see the
> >     expected live region attributes. Are you able to try it with NVDA?
> >
> >     --joanie
> >
> >
> >     On 12/04/2017 03:04 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> >     > I cannot select a date from the calendar on this scheduling site using
> >     > Firefox 57.0 and Orca master. While evaluating the site I
> >     noticed that
> >     > it does work in Safari on a Mac, so I imagine Orca can do it as
> >     well. I
> >     > thought I'd pass it along.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     
> > https://local.demandforce.com/b/animalhealthcareofmarlboro/schedule?widget=1&d3cp_exid=animalhealthcareofmarlboro&d3cp_source=My%2520Website
> >     
> > <https://local.demandforce.com/b/animalhealthcareofmarlboro/schedule?widget=1&d3cp_exid=animalhealthcareofmarlboro&d3cp_source=My%2520Website>
> >     >
> >     >
> >
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