[orca-list] Fedora 25 / gdm crash of Orca



I cannot get Orca to work with GDM on my Fedora 25 system. This is a recent problem and may have arisen from 
a python update.
Has anyone else seen this crash and can suggest a work around ?

Also, it seems that orca is not staring on log in. I have to restart it once logged in to get it to run.

michael

Apr 11 10:37:33 gutenberg-001 [4972]: detected unhandled Python exception in 'orca'
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/generator.py", line 245, in generate
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     globalsDict[arg] = 
self._methodsDict[arg](obj, **args)
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line 278, in _generateAncestors
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     and not 
self._script.utilities.isLayoutOnly(parent):
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/script_utilities.py", line 1203, in isLayoutOnly
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     elif obj.childCount == 1 and obj.name and 
obj.name == firstChild.name:
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: GLib.GError: atspi_error: The process appears 
to be hung. (1) Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: Traceback (most recent call 
last):
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/generator.py", line 234, in generate
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     result = eval(formatting, globalsDict)
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: NameError: name 'ancestors' is not defined 
Apr 11 10:37:35 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: During handling of the above exception, 
another exception occurred:
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/generator.py", line 245, in generate
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     globalsDict[arg] = 
self._methodsDict[arg](obj, **args)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/braille_generator.py", line 278, in _generateAncestors
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     and not 
self._script.utilities.isLayoutOnly(parent):
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/script_utilities.py", line 1203, in isLayoutOnly
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     elif obj.childCount == 1 and obj.name and 
obj.name == firstChild.name:
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: GLib.GError: atspi_error: The process appears 
to be hung. (1) Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: Traceback (most recent call 
last):
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pyatspi/registry.py", line 190, in eventWrapper
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     return callback(event)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/event_manager.py", line 696, in _processKeyboardEvent
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     rv = keyboardEvent.process()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 596, in process
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     self._did_consume, self._result_reason = 
self._process()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 623, in _process
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     self._present()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 562, in _present
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     return 
self._script.presentKeyboardEvent(self)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/scripts/terminal/script.py", line 113, in presentKeyboardEvent
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     return super().presentKeyboardEvent(event)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/scripts/default.py", line 3673, in presentKeyboardEvent
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     focusedObject = 
self.utilities.focusedObject(orca_state.activeWindow)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/script_utilities.py", line 526, in focusedObject
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     for child in root:
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pyatspi/Accessibility.py", line 41, in Accessible_getitem
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     len=self.get_child_count()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: GLib.Error: atspi_error: The process appears 
to be hung. (1) Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: Traceback (most recent call 
last):
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pyatspi/registry.py", line 190, in eventWrapper
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     return callback(event)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/event_manager.py", line 696, in _processKeyboardEvent
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     rv = keyboardEvent.process()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 596, in process
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     self._did_consume, self._result_reason = 
self._process()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 623, in _process
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     self._present()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 562, in _present
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     return 
self._script.presentKeyboardEvent(self)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/scripts/terminal/script.py", line 113, in presentKeyboardEvent
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     return super().presentKeyboardEvent(event)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/scripts/default.py", line 3673, in presentKeyboardEvent
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     focusedObject = 
self.utilities.focusedObject(orca_state.activeWindow)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/script_utilities.py", line 526, in focusedObject
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     for child in root:
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pyatspi/Accessibility.py", line 41, in Accessible_getitem
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     len=self.get_child_count()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: GLib.Error: atspi_error: The process appears 
to be hung. (1) Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]: Traceback (most recent call 
last):
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pyatspi/registry.py", line 190, in eventWrapper
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     return callback(event)
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/event_manager.py", line 696, in _processKeyboardEvent
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     rv = keyboardEvent.process()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 596, in process
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     self._did_consume, self._result_reason = 
self._process()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 623, in _process
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:     self._present()
Apr 11 10:37:36 gutenberg-001 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[4099]:   File 
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 562, in _present




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