Re: [orca-list] Semi-OT: Selecting Pulse device/profile from the command line
- From: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>
- To: Orca <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Semi-OT: Selecting Pulse device/profile from the command line
- Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 13:24:59 -0500
Man, I know this isn't your fault, and this rant isn't aimed at you, but
this morning I experienced a brown-out and came back to find my sound
dead. I couldn't configure via the GUI because I then can't arrow back
up to internal speakers and get Orca back like I once could. This is the
first time in a while I've seriously considered a switch back to Windows.
I'll probably do some research on this eventually, but in looking at
pacmd I see sinks, sources and clients, all of which seem to have inputs
and outputs. What the hell are these? I don't see this terminology used
anywhere else. Thanks to your message I have a vague idea what's what
but I can't seem to figure out what commands to care about when I'm
SSH'd in from a remote laptop to debug this (argh, I can't believe we're
still in those days.) I assume that a client is something like
speech-dispatcher, which makes sense, but that's the only bit of their
naming choice that makes any sense whatsoever. Sinks and sources give me
similar output when I list them via pacmd.
Also, is there a way to get less output with commands like list-sinks?
I'm sure it's visually obvious for someone who can see, but I get screen
upon screen upon screen of output, and I have to flat review most of a
screen to figure out a) what device given details are relevant to b) the
state of said device and c) the index. If I start at the top of the
screen I'm unsure what device details are relevant to, and if I start
near the bottom I have to remember things that may or may not be of
interest until I reach the device name, which may or may not be on this
screen. I wish there was something like the GNOME sound settings, but
for Pulse, and for the console so I could use it via SSH. pacmd gives me
so many knobs I don't know which to care about.
Another thing I'm unclear on, assuming I don't want to move a bunch of
sources or whatever to a new sink once I set it as default with pacmd,
what is the one thing I can do that will get everything
accessibility-related using whatever I set as default? Should I just
killall speech-dispatcher, and will it get restarted when Orca fails to
connect? Should I restart Orca, and will it launch new SD clients that,
since they're new, will get whatever sink I set up as the default? Just
trying to figure out what action is guaranteed to get speech back if
I've SSH'd in and set a new default device. Destructive is fine, though
I'd rather not reboot.
Also, is there a way via the command line that I can tell PA that I
don't care at all about certain devices? I suspect it's trying to launch
the sound device built into my dock, but I don't have speakers hooked up
to that. I'd like to just blacklist it entirely.
Thanks. And now I need a beer.
On 09/05/2016 02:57 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
Hello,
I have originally missed this discussion.
I think since pulseaudio 8.0 or gnome 3.20 I am not sure which one, it
is not possible to get the audio back by using the keyboard in the
sound gnome control center applet.
For example If I activate device which is not connected to any output
I can't just arrow back to restore the previous configuration.
pacmd is the commandline interface to pulseaudio and it is really
possible to do neat funky stuff with it.
For example on my laptop I do have internal speakers I either connect
simple headphones to it in such case everything plays through this
single pulseaudio device.
Or I am connecting external usb sound card. Through that external
soundcard I am only playing speech dispatcher output.
I had to setup this only once i.e. first when I have connected the USB
device pulseaudio did nothing in the previous versions now it
automagically switches to that similar to what Windows does.
So to get the setup I would like to have once the USB is connected I
use the sound gnome control center preferences to configure my
internal speakers as the default output device and then using pacmd
I'll manually route speech dispatcher to the usb device.
Next time this usb device is plugged in pulseaudio automagically
routes speech-dispatcher to it with no other tweaks for me.
for example here are some pacmd commands
pacmd list-sinks - print outs all the devices with their profiles,
properties and similar
You may just SSH in when the sound is lost and troubleshoot whether
something is not accessing alsa directly locking pulseaudio instance.
pacmd list-sink-inputs - lists all streams with properties. For
example you will see speech-dispatcher in this list all the time.
pacmd move-sink-input #n sink - moves sink-input #n to the specified
sink. You can either enter its index or its name e.g. I do have the
only one sink on the laptop currently....
<alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo>
pacmd set-default-sink <index or name> - sets what will be the default
sound output device. No streams are moved when doing this. New streams
start to play on the new default sink.
There are many more commands, this is what I think you might need for
this.
Greetings
Peter
On 05.09.2016 at 07:44 Willem van der Walt wrote:
Hi Nolan,
I do not have a direct/detailled answer, but, as your devices are
USB, plugging and unplugging will be picked up as events.
Udev is the system that creates device entries on the fly in /dev.
One can set up udev rules to ensure that a particular device will
always be created with the same name and in the same way.
As I understand it, one can also have a script run when a particular
event occurs, with which I suppose, one should be able to set the
default sound device automatically.
This might just give you a pointer where to start looking.
Regards, Willem
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, Nolan Darilek wrote:
I have a semi-complicated soundsetup. My laptop has crappy internal
speakers that I don't use unless I have to. It plugs in via USB to a
dock, which has an internal sound device that I don't use. To the
dock I've connected a Creative USB 5.1 surround system to which my
desktop speakers connect, and which sees most of my use. I also run
a set of wireless headphones, also connected via USB, which are only
occasionally connected and in use.
This complicated setup never gave Windows any issues, but
Linux/Pulse just can't handle it. At the moment I have the correct
sound setup configured, but if I disconnect my hub then I often
don't get sound back when I reconnect it. I've taken to pulling the
hub connection, which causes fallback to the internal speakers, at
which point I navigate to Settings and reconfigure the right
connections.
But lately something is horribly broken and I don't know what.
Sometimes, despite arrowing up and down on the device selection
combo box, sound goes away and never comes back (I.e. I'd expect it
to return at some point if my selection lands back on Internal
Speakers, but it never does.) Sometimes, plugging back in the hub
doesn't bring back my USB devices (as in, even my USB keyboard
doesn't come back) and I can only conclude that rapidly cycling
devices is confusing some subsystem or other.
Does anyone have any experience configuring this mess via the
command line? It would be useful if I could dump my configuration as
it is now, run a terminal command, and restore my preferred
configuration without using the GUI. I also want to restore my sound
profile to 5.0 Surround, which lately seems to be causing crashes as
well. I seem to be locking up Linux entirely such that I can't even
switch to another TTY and reboot.
As a semi-related aside, is there a way to navigate settings in
combo boxes without selecting them? I'm wondering if I can navigate
directly to the device I want and activate it without navigating
through, and presumably rapidly cycling, a whole bunch of other
devices between my current choice and the one I want. I don't know
if that might be causing anything, I'm just annoyed at having to
hard shutdown this laptop all of a sudden because I've lost all but
my internal speakers.
Thanks.
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