Re: [orca-list] atril document viewer

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi
I'm not a hundred percent sure actually. The reason I emailed in the
first place was because I thought orca was following along with the
arrows, but when I made the debug log I couldn't get it to do it. So
either it doesn't have it or it's not giving orca what it wants. There's
already a bug filed against it so I'll have to ping the mate people to
fix it.
Thanks
Kendell Clark


Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Kendell.
>
> Thanks! I just took a look. And based on the events I'm seeing, I have
> to ask if you are sure that Antril has caret navigation for the document
> and, if so, if you are sure it's enabled. The reason I ask is because
> the events I see when you are arrowing suggest that the document is
> scrolling; not that you are using caret navigation. If you are sure,
> then the bug is that we get no caret-moved events. This is not something
> I can fix in Orca. Orca needs to be told when the caret moves and where
> it is moving to. Sorry!
>
> --joanie
>
> On 03/16/2016 09:47 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > hi
> > Pdf debug log generated. I'll wait on the epub one for now since you
> > don't want it yet. This one is quite a bit smaller so it can be attached
> > on it's own without compression.
> > Attached below
> > Thanks
> > Kendell clark
> >
> >
> > Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > You can if you want. But the only one I will really be looking at
> > > initially is PDF navigation. Which is why that is the only one I am
> > > currently asking for. <smiles>
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 03/16/2016 09:43 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > hi
> > > > Oops, I'm so sorry. Do you want me to generate another file with just
> > > > the pdf navigation, and another one if you want for the epub? I'd be
> > > > happy to.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Kendell clark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > Hi Kendell.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please do not do so. Huge debug.out files are hard to go through. Having
> > > > > small files which only contain what I have requested make it easier for
> > > > > me to see what is going on. And given what you said about WebKit, that's
> > > > > not what I'm interested in seeing at the moment. I am only interested in
> > > > > seeing a PDF with line navigation being used.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again.
> > > > > --joanie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 03/16/2016 09:27 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > > hi
> > > > > > Sure thing. I'll also open an epub as well in that same debug log
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Kendell Clark
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Kendell.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could you send me a debug.out captured when using caret navigation to
> > > > > > > read a PDF line by line?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > --joanie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 03/16/2016 01:37 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > > > > hi all
> > > > > > > > I've been working on getting mate fully accessible, starting with those
> > > > > > > > forks of gnome 3 apps that aren't. Atril needs a little work on the orca
> > > > > > > > side, and it looks like I was wrong when I said it didn't have any kind
> > > > > > > > of caret navigation. I can't find a switch to enable it, but it seems to
> > > > > > > > be there, because I can use say all to read epub and pdf files, but
> > > > > > > > can't navigate by using the up and down arrow. However, I have just
> > > > > > > > enough vision to see a blinking cursor, and orca keeps track of my
> > > > > > > > movement. I can prove this by moving, then tabbing away from and back
> > > > > > > > into the document area. Also, when reading epub books, it seems to be
> > > > > > > > using webkit of some kind, because orca's prefs for atril adds a special
> > > > > > > > page for it that contains only a "automatically start reading the page
> > > > > > > > when it is loaded" item, which it does for epiphany, yelp, etc. I'm not
> > > > > > > > sure what to do next. Should I map this to something, wait for joanie to
> > > > > > > > look at it since she knows a lot more than I do?
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Kendell Clark
> > > > > > > >
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