Re: [orca-list] Does Orca not respect role="application" on anything other than body elements?

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

A way for you to test in the meantime is to enable Orca's sticky focus
mode. Because that mode is Orca's "let the web app handle it all" mode.

--joanie

On 07/25/2016 12:35 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> Right, I'll be using role="document" in most places and implementing my
> own handling where necessary. I just need to keep users from arrowing
> down from a menu and landing at the beginning of a document area
> containing text, thus moving their cursor position and triggering my
> tracking code to trash their original place. :) Not sure if that will
> work as I think it might, but in order to know I need role="application"
> to work as described in the spec--or, at least, how I've seen it work in
> NVDA.
>
>
> That said, it might be nice to have some way of disabling that behavior.
> I've seen a few sites that use it because hey, it's ARIA, they need to
> use ARIA, and they're applications so... :) It'd be nice to have an
> ejection seat from someone else's idea of a good experience.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On 07/25/2016 11:30 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hey Nolan.
> >
> > Understood. And I've put addressing this on my to-do list.
> >
> > I trust that your application is going to handle the key events, right?
> > Because if Orca's focus mode kicks in, that just means it won't
> > reposition the caret; it won't prevent Firefox's native caret navigation
> > from doing so.
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 07/25/2016 11:51 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > > Got it. My understanding is that role="application" should override text
> > > navigability, which is why I'm using it in this instance.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the explanation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/25/2016 10:04 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > Hi Nolan.
> > > >
> > > > I just took a quick glance (as I'm in the middle of something else).
> > > > But
> > > > as a general rule, Orca respects role="application" on page elements
> > > > when there is not something that looks like caret-navigable text. And
> > > > your paragraph child looks like caret-navigable text.
> > > >
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On 07/25/2016 10:48 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > > > > Working on an HTML-based ebook reader and am experimenting with using
> > > > > role="application" so someone can't arrow down from a menu into ebook
> > > > > text and trash their current position. But it doesn't seem like Orca
> > > > > respects role="application" on non-body elements. Take, for instance,
> > > > > this attached document. If I put role="application" on the body,
> > > > > everything works as expected and I can't arrow around. But with it on
> > > > > the <main/> element, nothing changes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I missing something either in the spec, or in some Orca/Firefox
> > > > > setup, that still permits this interaction? Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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