Re: [orca-list] Please test master with Gtk+ 3 (re typeahead search and caja event spam)

[Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>]

If you can install orca-git and reproduce the same error you had before, 
then back out to standard arch package and that issue disappears again I 
think you will at least have established something in orca-git is 
causing your issue.  All files differing from arch standard orca are 
then proper suspects until cleared.

On Mon, 26 Dec 2016, Janina Sajka via orca-list wrote:

> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:22:09
> From: Janina Sajka via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
> Reply-To: Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>
> To: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
> Cc: orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Please test master with Gtk+ 3 (re typeahead search
>     and caja event spam)
>
> Agreed, but unclear how to chase this down. I've been using orca-git for
> months without an issue, updating every few weeks or so.
>
>
> It's a puzzlement.
>
> Janina
>
> Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> > Hey Janina.
> >
> > I believe you when you say returning to the official Arch package made
> > the issue go away. However, I cannot help but wonder if something else
> > in the orca-git Arch package and/or its dependencies are to blame. After
> > all, how Orca processes accessible object events doesn't have anything
> > to do with speech-dispatcher.
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 12/26/2016 11:54 AM, Janina Sajka via orca-list wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I ran the orca-git script from the Arch AUR repository last Friday by
> > > way of trying out these latest changes. I was surprised by the audio
> > > distortion this introduced. In fact, I found it hard to believe Orca
> > > introduced this noise, as there was an alsa-lib update that got applied
> > > in a general system-wide upgrade.
> > >
> > > But, deleting orca-git and returning to the current Orca 3.22.2-1 build
> > > available on Arch alone cleared the noise issue.
> > >
> > > I will try again with orca-git, but I can't build at the moment for some
> > > reason or other. It's not fetching the source.
> > >
> > > In any case, my main point is that the noise won't be acceptable. Far
> > > better to have too much chatter, imo, if that's the trade-off.
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> > > > Hi Jean-Philippe.
> > > >
> > > > The other day I removed some more "noise." Have you tested the latest
> > > > master? As for not announcing "text" at all, I continue to think that's
> > > > a bad idea because you are in the text entry and being in the text entry
> > > > means you are not in the icons. Being in the text entry and not in the
> > > > icons impacts what keystrokes work and what keystrokes don't work and
> > > > what the keystrokes that do work will do.
> > > >
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/26/2016 04:10 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think we could remove the "noise" in the file manager? Hearing
> > > > > "text", what we type, the element, makes sense, but the remaining noise
> > > > > should be missing, don't you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Moreover, I know that beginners are disturbed by any "noise", even if
> > > > > technically it's useful as it says wether we're on a text area or not.
> > > > > Typically, announcing "text" when typing 1st letters of an icon could
> > > > > disturb some people.
> > > > >
> > > > > Couldn't we set this as a preference (in specific prefs for Caja in Orca)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your feedback
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 14/12/2016 ? 14:33, Rapha?l POITEVIN a ?crit :
> > > > > > Hi again,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I made more tests and I've some reflexion:
> > > > > > When the desktop has been just focused, for instance when coming from
> > > > > > the software menu to desktop; if I type one letter, for instance l, it
> > > > > > says "l" "text" and the icon. If I stay on the desktop and I search an
> > > > > > other icon with the same way, it says directly the name of the icon,
> > > > > > which is the behavior I expect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is your hack supposed to concern the file manager?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the file manager, when typing one letter, it says the reached element
> > > > > > and other blabla after. We don't need the other information, but at
> > > > > > least, it says the reached element first which is the most important.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When typing several letters, it says "text", and the letters, and the
> > > > > > element, and the title of the window and other blabla.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rapha?l
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/13/2016 06:29 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey guys.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just committed a change to Orca master which should minimize some of
> > > > > > > the problems described with respect to Caja, which spews accessibility
> > > > > > > events rather enthusiastically when typeahead search is used. I have so
> > > > > > > far only made the changes for Gtk+ 3 and it is a heuristic. Thus testing
> > > > > > > would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > --joanie
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