Re: [orca-list] Gnome Boxes vs. Virt Manager

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi
gnome boxes? Yeah, I think it uses libvirt. Libvirt is supposed to be
able to use kvm natively, but is apparently supposed to be able to
utilize virtualbox and possibly vmware as well, though I'm not so sure
about vmware. My impression of gnome boxes is it's generally designed to
do very basic virtualization. Click click done, you've got a vm,
configured automagically. Virt-manager is more for the advanced user who
 wants to configure them. I've had a little bit of a problem with virt
manager creating virtual ethernet cards for the OS layor but that could
be isolated to my particular machine. I personally use gnome boxes,
though it does have some weird accessibility issues that I really need
to get on top of. I'll be glad to help you set either up, though I'm not
an expert on either piece of software.

Thanks
Kendell clark


On 09/03/2015 04:43 AM, Tony Baechler wrote:
> On 9/2/2015 5:10 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > Gnome Boxes does definitely support and use KVM. Here's an article on
> > how to
> > get started with it and comparing it to Virt-Manager:
> > http://www.howtogeek.com/213922/easily-create-kvm-virtual-machines-on-linux-with-gnome-boxes/
>
> Yes, my apologies.  Alex also pointed this out and I should have looked
> more closely before assuming.  The reason for my assumption is, as I
> mentioned, because KVM is not a dependency.  Where I was wrong is
> because it does use and depend on libvirt which is a virtualization
> library.  That library does in fact support KVM, so I'm sorry for
> jumping to conclusions.  I wasn't as smart as I thought.
>
> > BTW, my understanding, and a Google search seems to bear this out, is
> > that
> > QEMU is part of KVM.
>
> No, it's the other way around.  KVM and Qemu were separate projects, but
> the KVM user space code was merged back into Qemu.  KVM is now an
> official part of Qemu and there is no longer a separate KVM package. 
> However, I think the KVM kernel module is developed separately and is
> not part of Qemu.  The qemu-kvm package is a dummy which only includes a
> wrapper script and depends on Qemu itself.  I assumed that KVM would be
> in the package description as it is in ganeti, for example.
>
> > Obviously no one expects you to ask about an application before you know
> > about it, but once someone does point it out to you, I just don't get the
> > resistance to look into it more.
>
> I agree.  That's why I gave it a try.  It was so inaccessible with the
> keyboard that I didn't see much point in spending lots of time after
> having mostly good luck with Virt-Manager.  However, it's still
> installed and I'll keep trying and see how far I get.  The problem is
> everything requires a mouse click, so it seems like a lot more effort to
> me, but I've been wrong before.  For what it's worth, it has a lot more
> dependencies than Virt-Manager as well.
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