Re: [orca-list] Emacs editor

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

You can use the same speech synths in Emacspeak as well.  I use it with Espeak.  I once heard a Speechd-el 
user say he preferred it to Emacspeak because he could use Festival with it via Speech Dispatcher.  

I tried installing Speechd-el once and absolutely never could get it to work.   Considering the headaches 
once involved with getting Emacspeak to work, that was really saying something.  I totally gave up on it and 
haven't gone back to it for another spin ever since.  

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of kendell clark
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:18 AM
To: Peter Vágner; Devin Prater; orca-list
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Emacs editor

hi
Afaik this project is abandoned. SPeechd-el, that is. There's no arch package for it in the aur, although 
there used to be. Emacspeak is still under active development. If I'm wrong about speechd-el being abandoned 
I'd be happy to be corrected. I do know that speechd-el does sound interesting. This way I can use the same 
synthesizers that I already have set up in orca. My only concern then would be installing some of the addons 
emacspeak comes with. Bookshare, that kind of thing.
Thanks
Kendell clark


On 10/27/2015 06:45 AM, Will Estes wrote:
> You should be asking those questions on the mailing list for speech dispatcher.
>
> On Tuesday, 27 October 2015, 12:44 pm +0100, Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > If I can be rude again asking for further hints...
> > I'm reading speechd-el guide at the install steps here 
> > http://devel.freebsoft.org/doc/speechd-el/speechd-el.html#speechd_002
> > del-User-Manual I can use make compile to bite compile el files to 
> > elc files however I don't know where emacs loadpatch is.
> > Is it at /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ ?
> > Do I just place el and elc files into this folder or do I have to 
> > create speechd-el subfolder for it to work?
> > Where do I put the info file in order to make built-in help working for me?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 27.10.2015 at 10:22 Will Estes wrote:
> > > speechd-el expects speech dispatcher to be running. Other than that, I don't see any platform specific 
> > > issues -- aside from emacs itself.That question is best directed to the speech dispatcher mailing list.
> > >
> > > On Monday, 26 October 2015,  8:17 pm -0500, Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello, could speechdl be compiled and used within other unix systems, like the Mac?
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Will Estes <westes575 gmail com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > All the active development on emacspeak is on adding functionality that is emacspeak specific and 
> > > > > generally not needed. It's also, often, things that would be better handled outside of the "screen 
> > > > > reading" component. When I last used emacspeak, I found its build process fragile and opaque.
> > > > >
> > > > > speechd-el, on the other hand, simply lets emacs be emacs -- just with speech output. So you're not 
> > > > > remembering additional screen reader specific commands other than the basics to make speech output the 
> > > > > way you ened it.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a good tutorial inside emacs itself. speechd-el explains how to get it up and running inside 
> > > > > emacs -- which you could do outside of emacs using another editor if you'd rather. Although the trick 
> > > > > about using emacs in non-windowing mode mentioned on the list earlier is workable, certainly as a 
> > > > > starting point.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday, 26 October 2015,  1:34 pm +0100, Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think emacs is really powerfull editor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can some of you knowing it better either give a few words on why 
> > > > > > you prefer speechd-el over emacspeak or the other way round?
> > > > > > It appears emacspeak is more active developed than speechd-el.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also is there a howto for beginers and noobs looking at learning this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 26.10.2015 at 09:16 Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 25/10/2015 22:48, Mike Dupont wrote:
> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacspeak check out emacspeak it 
> > > > > > > > is supposed to be very good and also allows for access to other things.
> > > > > > > There are also speechd-el. You can find information here :
> > > > > > > http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd-el
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I use this line in my bashrc to make Emacs in CLI automatically :
> > > > > > > alias emacs='emacs -nw'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Alex.
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