Re: [orca-list] orca and multilingual systems?

[Zahari Yurukov <zahari yurukov gmail com>]

Hi,
If they can change the language their desktop and programs are in, that
should apply to Orca, too.
Orca is localized in zh_TW, zh_HK and zh_CN (though not 100%), so if
they select one of those languages in the Language tab of the Language
Support program - most of the Orca's interface and messages should be
localized in the respective language automatically after reboot.
They also need to change Orca Preferences -> Voice tab -> Person combo
box to either Mandarin (zh) or  cantonese (zh-yue)  - depending of the
language they speak, assuming ESpeak is the selected synthesizer.

If I do:
env LANGUAGE="zh_CN" orca --replace
and then change Orca Preferences -> Voice tab -> Person combo box to
Mandarin - it works perfectly (though I don't understand anything, smile).
Now I tried also zh_TW and  zh_HK and it looks like they also should be
read with the Mandarin voice.
So may be that's what they're missing to change. Though like I said -
the translation in those languages is not complete, so they'll hear some
messages in English.

Best wishes,
Zahari

On 27.11.2015 13:28, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
> Ah, so just changing the system locale should do it? I'm trying to
> figure how orca picks up on language changes. Basically what I want to
> be able to do is to say, boot in chinese, and orca and espeak come up
> speaking chinese and all the programs, those that are translated anyway,
> show up in chinese, etc. I'm trying to find out how to do that so the
> next time I get an email from someone oversees I can help them. They
> tell me that although they can change the language their desktop and
> programs are in, they can't change the language orca speaks in, and it's
> ui elements remain in english. I'm not at all sure how this works. I
> assumed you'd need a restart of either the desktop or orca to affect
> this, and if so, could orca prompt you when the language is changed?
>
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> On 11/27/2015 04:49 AM, Zahari Yurukov wrote:
> > Hi,
> > We're talking about Orca's interface and system messages' language,
> > right? Cause I was a little confused with the mentioning of
> > speech-dispatcher, and of course you can change your synthesizer
> > language from Orca Preferences -> Voice -> Person.
> >
> > If you change the system language, that should work. At least it works
> > in Ubuntu and Vinux.
> > And in theory it should work everywhere - it's ment to do exactly that.
> > What about other programs? For example Firefox? When they change their
> > system locale, doesn't that change the Firefoxe's locale too?
> > Though the locale for some programs (like Firefox) should be installed
> > separately. But that's not the case with Orca.
> > And what about the enviroment? I haven't changed my system locale  for a
> > quite while, but I'm almost sure it requires reboot.
> >
> > If you want to run Orca in a different language, let's say Bulgarian, no
> > matter  of the system language, you can use:
> > env LANGUAGE="bg_BG" orca --replace
> >
> > I.e. you need to set the LANGUAGE variable of the locale to the language
> > code underscore country code.
> > I'm not sure why it doesn't respect the LC_MESSAGES one.
> > And I'm sure it respected the LANG one before, but now it doesn't.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Zahari
> >
> > On 27.11.2015 11:34, kendell clark wrote:
> > > hi all
> > > I've been getting emails over the past few months from non english
> > > speaking people attempting to use both sonar and fedora, but saying they
> > > can't figure out how to change the language orca speaks in. The problem
> > > seems to be that, although they can change the system language in gnome
> > > by going into the region and language settings, orca doesn't pick up on
> > > this and there's no way to change the language in orca itself. I'm not
> > > sure how to help them. They inevitably bring up nvda, and since orca and
> > > nvda are different, about all I can say is well that's nvda, not orca.
> > > How does orca detect what language to speak in? Does it use the system
> > > locale and then tell speech-dispatcher to use that language? I'm trying
> > > to figure out a way to make it relatively easy to change languages at
> > > boot time, and orca and the system automatically come up in that
> > > language. Since there's no way to change orca's locale, at least from
> > > the gui, could this be added, maybe in the general tab? Orca may have to
> > > be restarted for this to work, I'm not sure.  I'm also not sure how much
> > > work this would be to implement, i hope it's not too much. If this were
> > > ever done, could this be refined to only offer languages the selected
> > > synthesizer can speak in or is that not doable?  I'm a novice at how
> > > locales work in linux other than you use /etc/locale.gen to add them,
> > > and then the gui to change between them.
> > > Thanks
> > > Kendell clark
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