Re: [orca-list] please help me with finding bugs in SpaceFM

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hey Burt.

It looks like the submenu issue is related to the selected item claiming
to have an index in parent of -1. That value is something we see with
objects which have been destroyed or are in the process of being
destroyed. Thus Orca's "zombie detection" code deliberately checks for
that condition and doesn't touch "zombies." This check solves many
problems in many situations. And valid accessible objects should report
their child index. So the fix for this issue really should be made in
SpaceFM. I'll look at their code.

--joanie

On 05/25/2015 10:39 PM, B. Henry wrote:
> Thanks for the fix. 
> There are still a few strangenesses, but this seems to be a rather squirrily program. 
> I'll try and explain  the odder one, but may do a poor job.
> Go to the view menu. You fixsed it so everything is available now, but try arrowing up. There will be a 
> couple of arrow stops where nothing is spoken 
> just past window title. Arrow down and this happens just past panel bar. View is spoken in different place 
> depending on whether one is moving up or 
> down. Right arrow in either of the silent places or where view is spoken and a submenu is opened, so 
> everything appears to be available, but this is 
> certainly confusing to a new spacefm user. 
> Also plug-ins that have submenus are silent until one right arrows to open submenu. 
> I do not know if these submenu related issues can or should be fixed orca side or if this is a spacefm 
> defect that should not be hacked around.  
> There are a couple other things that I want to test, but unless something has changed additions, e.g. 
> bookmarks or plug-ins were not seen by orca until 
> one either restarted spacefm or did some moving up and down throught directory structure. 
> Well, a quick test and as long as one adds new book mark by going to the new bookmark button the interface 
> pops up and one can set up the bookmark and 
> it shows up right away. The control d shortcut however either creates an undefined menu entry in booikmarks 
> or does nothing here. I'd say this is almost 
> certainly a spacefm oddity, but if there is something that pops up on screen that orca does not focus on 
> when control d is pressed then perhaps it is 
> orca side.
> I don't have a handy sighted person right now to see what is actually onscreen.
> The other issue is that orca only speaks "frame" when I try to use spacefm to manage my desktop. I have no 
> problems using pcmanfm or caja to do this 
> using the same ~/Desktop folder and the same start method. Again I suspect this is spacefm side, but other 
> than explaining the basic issue have nothing 
> useful to say to the spacefm dev that could help fix this. Any suggestions?
> Regards,
>
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