Re: [orca-list] urgent mate love from orca needed

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
I am sorry. My original posting most likelly sounded like I am afraid of 
updates. Well that is not my issue. I am just trying to find out whether 
it might be possible to get this addressed until mate 1.10 is declared 
stable.

Greetings

Peter

On 29.01.2015 at 09:07 MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Hence my love for Debian: Debian 8 works fine, with MATE 1.8. MATE 
> 1.10 will be tested in sid (unstable) and testing, debugged (dialog 
> with MATE devs is quite easy). This 3-times dev cycle seems to be good 
> to avoid a11y breaks. Harder for rolling-releases. Even ubuntu is less 
> constant with updates I think.
>
> Regards,
>
> Le 29/01/2015 08:50, Peter Vágner a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > Is there something interesting happening possibly leading to trying 
> > to address accessibility issues with upcoming mate release?
> > I don't want to sound awkward or hammer anyone however I am deciding 
> > what to recommend to a friend to install on a netbook. I think the 
> > best choice would be arch linux with manually installed mate however 
> > if there is no new development on this with the nature of rolling 
> > release distro things may start breaking for that friend when these 
> > updates become stable.
> > The next on my list is ubuntu mate.
> >
> > Thanks and greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On 15.12.2014 at 08:34 Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > Quick follow-up. Looking at your debug.out the MATE app is not emitting
> > > the correct events. I've put the missing events in the GNOME bug.
> > > Hopefully that will be sufficient for the MATE developers to fix this
> > > issue for you.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 12/15/2014 08:24 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > Hi Kendell.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the report. I've been in Spain for a web engines hackfest
> > > > but will be returning home tomorrow and will take a look. If the bug
> > > > is in MATE, I'll file a bug in their issue tracker.
> > > >
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On 12/15/2014 03:22 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > hi all I'll try to make this short. Mate 1.8 is the latest stable
> > > > > version and it works fine with orca. There are a few minor issues
> > > > > whichI've put in a bug report. But mate 1.10 is currently in
> > > > > development and as it stands is nearly unusable with orca. I
> > > > > realize this is development code, but it's worrying. Mate 1.10 has
> > > > > the following issues with orca. 1: the icon view in caja, the file
> > > > > manager, is inaccessible. This used to be accessible in mate 1.8.
> > > > > This causes the desktop to not read with orca anymore. The
> > > > > backgrounds list in appearance properties  is inaccessible with
> > > > > orca, instead reporting the occasional scale, horrizontal gradient,
> > > > > from the control next to the list. The panel seems to have
> > > > > regressed, becoming less accessible than the current stable
> > > > > version. Applets that used to be announced now simply say push
> > > > > button, or icon. The main menu says nothing with orca when it is
> > > > > opened, unless it's not on the panel, then it says window. That's
> > > > > all the new issues. The rest of the issues are issues in the
> > > > > current stable version, that have carried over.  Are there any orca
> > > > > developers who could take a look? The bug I've filed is at,
> > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740670. I suspect this
> > > > > is a combination of orca and mate issues. From my limited
> > > > > examination of the debug logs, orca loads the gail module in mate
> > > > > 1.8, which is what allows it to read most of mate. In 1.10, it
> > > > > loads the standard gtk module. Mate is in the process of porting
> > > > > to gtk3, which will be completed in either the next stable release,
> > > > > 1.10 or the following, 1.12. This is why I'm asking for orca devs
> > > > > to look, because as it stands it's less accessible than the current
> > > > > stable version. Thanks Kendell clark
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> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp