Re: [orca-list] playing videos in ubuntu

[Al Sten-Clanton <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

The quality or desirability of so-called intellectual property is a 
separate matter from deciding when to break a law because this is the 
least of evils.  I've written to Josh privately on the second.  As for 
the first, we probably should abolish the legal right to monopolize or 
restrict the travel of ideas, even if one result is to slow the pace of 
"innovation."

I know I've aided and abetted being off-topic.  I'll stop.

Al

On 2/27/2015 8:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> Ah, well I'm glad I live in a country where following the laws isn't
> optional and just anyone with a biased or misinformed view can't hide
> behind the fact that they think a law is ridiculous. I don't agree with
> every law on the books, and I've worked to change laws I don't agree
> with, but I don't assume it's my right to pick and choose the laws I'll
> follow. I don't think the laws around intellectual property are as black
> and white as you think, and I'd be shocked if you actually have a plan
> to get us from the current state of intellectual property and digital
> rights management laws to that utopia you must think would exist if they
> were to just suddenly go away.
>
> On 02/27/2015 05:51 AM, Josh K wrote:
> > I will follow the laws to a point. but there is such a thing as
> > rediculous laws that go overboard. and when the laws get rediculous and
> > go overboard, taking away my rights, or trying to, then sorry I can no
> > longer follow them. By rediculous I mean all the restrictions in
> > proprietary license agreements, dvd encryption and so on. I do not mean
> > laws meant to keep people safe such as no speeding on highways and so on
> > those laws are reasonable. Even some software not many but some software
> > licenses are reasonable, but sadly most are not most are so convoluted
> > and rediculous if I choose not to follow them I don't feel guilty or bad
> > at all. dvd encryption is one. restrictive drm on both software and
> > media is another.
> >
> > follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> >
> > On 2/26/2015 9:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > > I assume it's because some people want to actually follow the law as
> > > opposed to knowing they just won't get caught breaking it.
> > >
> > > On 02/26/2015 04:38 PM, Josh K wrote:
> > > > why do you have to check laws in your area? do computers have detectors
> > > > so when you use illegal software your computer phones the police and
> > > > they show up at your door to arrest you for using illegal stuff? no.
> > > > you
> > > > can use libdvd without worries i think.
> > > >
> > > > follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> > > >
> > > > On 2/26/2015 5:32 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
> > > > > This may be of help with libdvdcss. Please make sure to check the
> > > > > laws in your area though:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Luke
> > > > > Yelavich
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:22 PM
> > > > > To: orca-list gnome org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] playing videos in ubuntu
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 05:41:51AM AEDT, Michael Weaver wrote:
> > > > > > The main problem I am having with Ubuntu seems to be using video
> > > > > > codecs to play classic DVDs.
> > > > > For watching dvds, you should only need vlc, and libdvdcss. I am not
> > > > > going to outline how to to get libdvdcss because many juristictions
> > > > > have laws against such encryption breaking technologies, dvd playback
> > > > > should not require ubuntu-restricted-extras, at least not if you are
> > > > > using vlc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Luke
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