Re: [orca-list] pdf files

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
I have tested this and indeed the caret really moves when selecting a 
row in the table listing search results.
However some untagged PDF files are interpreted in a way that all the 
text is reported as if it was on a huge single line. The most natural 
way when looking around is pressing up or down arrow key. So when the 
caret moves and I press up or down arrow I will end up reading 
completelly different part of the file. If I start moving by letter all 
is fine in regard to cursor movement but having text of the whole page 
displayed as a single line or in some cases as two or three lines is a 
bit inconvenient.
Currently I do only have PDF files with the text in slovak where I can 
observe this behaviour. I will pass some files along if I notice PDF 
file with english text where I can reproduce the issue.

Greetings

Peter




On 01.02.2015 at 17:06 Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Updating the caret position was fixed in Evince 3.12.2  and works for me
> using Evince 3.14 and Orca master (though Orca stable should work too,
> as long as it's not too old).
>
> Does the problem happen all the time, or just occasionally? Also instead
> of clicking via Orca, does it work if you Tab to the list of find
> results, arrow to the one you want, and press Escape? The caret should
> be updated as the selection changes.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 02/01/2015 10:41 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am afraid this might really be an evince issue. Judging from your
> > description evince scrols into view after performing a search but the
> > caret offset may not be set accordingly therefore orca is unable to
> > follow the view. This is only my assumption and may not be entirelly
> > correct. Most likelly Joanie or someone else knowing evince
> > accessibility better will hopefully be able to better interpret this and
> > come up with something that may help addressing this in the future.
> >
> > Greetings  Peter
> >
> > Dňa 31.1.2015 23:52 používateľ "Alonzo cuellar" <mariachiac gmail com
> > <mailto:mariachiac gmail com>> napísal:
> >
> >      Hello Peter,
> >      Yes I can see the document fine. I'm just uable to go to a certain
> >      aprt of
> >      the document with control-f.
> >      I do control-f search for hat I want, selectt the result in the
> >      table with
> >      orca-8. I then press escape and reaad the document, but it doesn't
> >      seem to
> >      navigate to the corrrect location. Seems that carrot focus isn't
> >      picking it
> >      up correctly. However, I'm not sure if its carrot focus and orca or what
> >      the problem is.
> >      Alonzo
> >
> >      On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:53:33PM +0100, Peter Vágner wrote:
> >      > Hello,
> >      > Do you have issues with all the pdf files or just with files from this
> >      > publisher? Might that be that the publisher has included some
> >      restrictions
> >      > within the file such as drm encryption, text selection restriction
> >      or other
> >      > such properties?
> >      > For me most pdf files are readable with evince although verry few
> >      of them
> >      > include contents where I can see the list of chapters. I think you
> >      already
> >      > know that you need to enable caret mode by pressing f7 key after
> >      opening a
> >      > file in Evince.
> >      >
> >      > Greetings
> >      >
> >      > Peter
> >      > Dňa 31.1.2015 20:42 používateľ "Alonzo cuellar"
> >      <mariachiac gmail com <mailto:mariachiac gmail com>>
> >      > napísal:
> >      >
> >      > > Hello,
> >      > > I have a pdf file i'm trying to view. Its from a publisher. When
> >      I go into
> >      > > the document with evince i'm unable to tab around to find the
> >      treeview of
> >      > > chapters or
> >      > > anything. When My brother sees me tabbing around its like the
> >      document
> >      > > scrolls  threw all the pages.
> >      > > How can I read pdf files with orca?
> >      > >
> >      > > alonzo
> >      > >
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