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Re: [orca-list] Orca silent

Hello,

Are you still getting that locale related error when running spd-say?

Have you configured speech-dispatcher to use either alsa or libao?
In order to see or tweak speech-dispatcher configuration specific to your user account run spd-conf.
To manually inspect global speech-dispatcher configuration look into the file 

/etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf

You are looking for this part within that file...

# -- AUDIO OUTPUT --

# Chooses between the possible sound output systems:
#       "pulse" - PulseAudio
#       "alsa"  - Advanced Linux Sound System
#       "oss"   - Open Sound System
#       "nas"   - Network Audio System
#       "libao" - A cross platform audio library
# Pulse audio is the default and recommended sound server. OSS and ALSA
# are only provided for compatibility with architectures that do not
# include Pulse Audio. NAS provides network transparency, but is not
# very well tested. libao is a cross platform library with plugins for
# different sound systems and provides alternative output for Pulse Audio
# and ALSA as well as for other backends.

# AudioOutputMethod "pulse"
If you need to use libao because alsa is causing you issues then you may also need to look into the following config file... 

/etc/libao.conf

and within that file you are looking for...

default_driver=alsa
dev=default

I do only have these two lines in there.
Note: I am running arch linux on this machine since december 2012, I haven't touched sound configuration from my initial setup. I am using pulseaudio all the time within X. And I have experienced no issues so far. Guessing based off amount of sound issues discussed on this list recently that removing pulseaudio tends to cause more issues than most of us expect to solve by removing it. BTW pulseaudio 6 handles hdmi and USB sound devices automagically as they connect via udev, it supports various bluetooth profiles either via bluez5 or ofono. This is no longer that 0.9 pulseaudio that had rather not very positive reputation back in the days. It's awesome, can also coexist with jack communicating via dbus and more neat things if you delve into its documentation a bit. pacmd utility used to control your pulseaudio devices either from commandline or from simple bash scripts is also very usefull and friendly. 

Greetings

Peter

On 27.08.2015 at 15:53 Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
Thanks, Peter and Storm. I tried Peter's suggestions but speech-dispatcher still doesn't work. I removed Pulseaudio from the equasion over a year ago and can't think of anything that would have brought it back into play. I've had quirky things happen since the massive update on 17-18 April, some getting worse, but never before have I lost Orca speech and been unable to get it talking again. 

Al
On 8/27/2015 3:36 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:

Hello,
Direct eSpeak support for orca has some performance issues, I don't
think that is viable for day to day use.
In order to fix your locale issues, you might like to try regenerating
the locale data.

In your favorite text editor open a file
/etc/locale.gen
If it's missing then try to reinstall glibc
sudo pacman -S glibc
If this does not work, then try to update your system.
If it still does not work try
sudo pacman -Sy glibc
Finally if you have got the file
/etc/locale.gen
showing in your text editor of choice uncoming the locales you wish to
generate respective data for. I suggest uncommenting the line
#en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
If you need other locales you can also uncomment them e.g.
#en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8
Once uncommented save the file and run the following command in your
terminal
locale-gen

Now try to repeat tests with speech-dispatcher as suggested by Storm
earlier.

If it does not work, then we need to work out if you are using
pulseaudio or alsa and try to diagnose what's going on here.
Recently we had a conversation on getting kali linux to play sounds with
Don Raikes. I think I have tried to explain a lot of alsa vs pulseaudio
stuff in there. You may like to check that discussion.

If it still does not work for you after doing and checking all this
please ask, we'll try to come up with more possible solutions.

Greetings

Peter

On 27.08.2015 at 04:03 Storm Dragon wrote:

Hi,
I haven't seen that particular error with speech-dispatcher before. If
it is vital that you get Orca up and running before any other solution
can be found, you could try installing the orca version with built in
espeak support. If you would like to do so:
git clone https://github.com/pvagner/orca
cd orca
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var
make
sudo make install
I'm not sure how to pick espeak from the list without having speech,
maybe Peter can help out with that. If there is a way to do it that
is. Maybe when the direct espeak code gets added, it will be included
in the orca -t options so it will be possible to select it from the
CLI. Sorry I can't do any better than this, but maybe it will be
enough to get you up and running.
HTH
Storm
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 09:48:33PM -0400, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:

Hi, Storm, and thanks for the suggestions.  I'm sorry to say that
trying either spd-say "hello" or the command speech-dispatcher gives me 

setlocale: No such file or directory

I installed speech-dispatcher-git and got the same thing. (I had to
use this Windows machine to get the link." I think there's a man page
for setlocale, but I couldn't figure out what it had to do with
speech-dispatcher.  I certainly couldn't figure out how any relevant
file or directory by that name got removed or where it's supposed to be. 

Anybody have any ideas?

Al

On 8/26/2015 7:46 PM, Storm Dragon wrote:

Howdy,
Did you try:
spd-say "hello"
Does it speak?
If not, try:
killall -9g speech-dispatcher && speech-dispatcher
then repeat the above step again:
spd-say "hello"
If that still doesn't speak, try upgrading to speech-dispatcher from
git
available in the AUR. Hopefully, when the espeak code gets added, loss 
of speech will become much more rare.
HTH
Storm
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:40:40PM -0400, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:

Greetings!
I didn't use my Linux machine for a few days. Today, I find that Orca 
doesn't speak.  It is running, according to the ps command. Sound is
fine, as shown by using Firefox to get to an online radio station. I 
have used versions 3.17.90pre, 3.16.2, and 3.17.91pre, and have
rebooted for each. The super-alt-s keystroke has alternately shown me 
that it was running and that it was not.  I have also tried Orca-s
several times.  It seems, therefore, that everything I've used is
working except Orca's speech output.
I'm using Arch. I ran an update today, after finding this problem. I 
think I did one last week, but don't recall whether I used Orca
afterwards or simply shut down, so can't say for sure that that update 
didn't somehow cause the problem.

I'll be grateful for any help.

Al
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orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visithttp://live.gnome.org/Orca  for more information on Orca.
The manual is athttp://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html 
The FAQ is athttp://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests athttp://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help athttp://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp




_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html 
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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